(01-11-2025, 10:02 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:

(01-10-2025, 05:49 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: Yes because despite that fact we lost about 10 games by one score or less.  Many of their guys, create plays when the game is on the line.  The Defense was bad no doubt but so was the offense.  Are you forgetting the games where the offense kept going 3 and out and the defense stayed on the field for 40 mins a game? Or how about the few times the defense would create a turnover just for the crappy offense to give the ball right back.  Both is true is they both stunk so lets not point fingers like one was so much better than the other. This offense with Lawrence was awful at times this season.  I get your narrative it's on everyone else but I disagree.

Put Mahomes or Burrow on any team including the titans this past season and I am betting my bank they win the division.  Those Guys are in a complete different League than our guy.

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9 out of the top 12 I would bet my bank they make the playoffs if they started for the Jaguars in 2024.

Not saying they don't have great QBs but it's much easier to create plays when you have guys like Chase and Higgins. Mahomes has the a top 2 All time TE, the fastest WR ever, traded for Hopkins, now Brown is back, the best interior oline in the league. Remember how bad the Bengals dominated us with a backup QB in Browning? Remember what the Chiefs done in the playoffs when Mahomes went down and Henne came in? It didn't matter because they have great coaching, and great to HOF type players on offense.  

It's crazy you couldn't see how bad this coaching was, Press was a horrendous play caller and Doug scheme is outdated.  The QB wasn't good by any means but Doug and Press did nothing to help the offense. There isnt a QB in this league that would have taken this team to the playoffs.  The Chiefs lost to the Colts last year when they played them, the Texans beat the Bills this year

A couple comments.

we lost about 10 games by one score or less -  I heard 1010 talking about this and it turns out greater than 80% of the games this year in the NFL were one score games. This is a useless stat when used to justify a team's lack of wins.  The Chefs have won 10 straight one score games this year on the way to a 15-2 record. If that was reversed they would have been 5-12.

No QB in the league is successful with constant pressure in their face, especially up the middle. Just look at Minnesota's Sam Darnold last week against the Lions. He average for the year an 82 PFF offense ranking completing 66% of his passes. Against the Lions he had a 45 ranking completing just 44% of his passes.

In my opinion Doug appears to be a nice guy but is not either an offensive or defensive guru. He is dependent upon the coordinators he hires to make him successful, this puts him at a disadvantage. Unfortunately, he also seems to lack the judgement to hire good ones. That is except the one time when he hired Frank Reich. (if it was him and not Luri)

Jacksonville's offense ranked dead last in time of possession. The Jag possessed the ball an average of 26 minutes of each game. This was down from 30 minutes the previous the year. The Jags scored an average of 18.8 points each game, down from 22.2 the previous year. Historically Doug's offense has averaged 22 points a game other than the one year Frank Reich was his OC when it averaged 29. Good offenses average between 27-33 ppg.

Jacksonville's defense ended up at #25 allowing 25.6 ppg. It was at best a very undisciplined with a tendency for players to be out of position. I could go on but much of what I would say has been beaten to death already. Good defenses allowed 18-22 ppg.

It would appear to me the more Doug's system and culture were ingrained in the team the less successful they were.

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