(02-05-2025, 10:14 PM)Jag149 Wrote: Go read or watch it before you get all worked up.
I have listened to Trump a great deal. I won't say I have never heard him attempt a joke, but its rare and even rarer that anyone even cracks a smile. I can't think of a man with less humor (almost no sense of humor) as Donald Trump. The man is incapable of joking. When I hear his fans say he was joking, I hear delusion and rationalization as they too can't believe what he said, so this is their way of dealing with it.
What Trump said is beyond the pale of stupid. Even if he did not mean what he said, he should have been clear and when other people took it in a way he did not intend, he should have clarified. He did not. There should be no ambiguity coming for the POTUS unless the ambiguity is intended.
Instead, he played right into the fears of the Palestinian community. There are people right now that are organizing radicals around this statement. Whether he was "joking" or not is completely moot. It was perhaps the single most irresponsible thing that a President is ever said. He is no joker, but he is a arrogant fool.
I just re-watched the news conference, then him explaining himself in the oval office. He did not clarify, he doubled down. I think you may have watched his news conference, but you did not hear it. Or either your too much of a MAGA troll to want to understand it.
Again "Mr Moderative Voter", the President stood on the podium with the Israeli PM and announced a policy shift, so yes MANY are worked up. That would include Egypt, Jordan, and most importantly Saudi Arabia.
Trump said long term ownership, his words.
(02-06-2025, 10:58 AM)Jag149 Wrote: (02-06-2025, 09:57 AM)mikesez Wrote: You guys always say "TDS." Three magic letters that mean you no longer have to respond to or even consider opposing arguments.
Trump definitely wasn't joking about Gaza, guys. He might have been exaggerating, as a negotiation tactic, but he was serious. TDoss is exasperated, but not by Trump this time. He's exasperated by Jag149 claiming that Trump was joking.
LOL, yes I am. But don't be a pigeon...look at the purpose of the interview.
Trump was letting the all the Arab nations know that no matter what there is NO way Israel backed by the US will return Gaza to what it was before the Hamas attack. They can ask, beg whatever but it will not happen. There is no daylight between the US and Israel. Returning to the status quo will not happen. Hamas will not be allowed to govern Gaza. That is madness.
He also let slip the US is not interested in funding the rebuilding of Gaza without a return on investment. He then began throwing out ideas one of which was the Arab nations building areas to house the Palestinians. Problem there history has shown us those guys do not want those guys in their countries either. You guys really think he is interested in the US owning an elite greasy spoon area in the middle east? That's what you took from that conversation? ROTFL !!
Israel is not going to let Arab nations into Gaza to nation build.
They don’t want a viable Gaza with Arabs in it. They want an ethnically cleansed Gaza that they can build settlements on.