(03-05-2025, 04:29 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

(03-05-2025, 01:55 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: Depends on what you mean by support. The figure I saw before the election showed about 4% of GOP voters felt favorably about Putin and Russia. That figure in recent polling has jumped to more than 40%. If you combine that with the GOP voters who now feel that Ukraine is to blame for the conflict, even if they’re not necessarily particularly fond of Putin, than it’s reasonable to say a majority of those voters support Russia now. That’s quite a turnaround.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurke...h-ukraine/

Russia is not our friend but they also aren't the enemy that the U.S.S.R. was. In some ways Russia has more potential for friendship with us with China moving more prominently to the top of the pecking order, as they are a geographically closer enemy of Russia than us. I don't want to be in a war with Russia, nor do I want any of these other countries doing something that will drag us into war with Russia. I also don't want to support Russia, but I don't care to stop them either; as it is now it's simply not in our interests to be on either side. I'm fine with selling guns and ammo to the Ukrainians if they want to buy our old hardware from us, but I have not one damn bit of interest in giving them the money to do so. We just have too many folks who are stuck in their Cold War/Red Dawn era feelings about a country that just isn't that country any longer.

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(03-05-2025, 10:21 AM)TDOSS Wrote: You mean except Russia’s doormat.

The one country that’s actually a threat.

A threat to who? America? Laughable. They can't beat a second-rate landlocked nation like Ukraine who is right next door. There's not a credible threat from Russia aside from potential nuclear attack, but even that threat is miles less than it's been in my own lifetime. Your Russian bogeyman is just shadows on the wall.

If you remember Putin made a trip to talk to Xi just before he invaded. I am guessing it was to ensure China would not interfere on Ukraine and in return Russia would not interfere on Taiwan.  While Putin is a hard line KGB leftover from Stalin (you can use a bunch of other adjectives too) He is not stupid.  He got what 20% of Georgia when Clinton blinked, the Crimean Peninsular when Obama did and now trying to get as much of Ukraine from Biden. It is pretty transparent he wants the old USSR/Mother Russia back. Mr. Z better get to the table before they launch a spring offensive where he loses much more land, because I cannot see them getting back what has been lost. Maybe, but pretty long odds. Seems these things always begin when we have a Democrat for President. Could it be intentional?

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