(03-07-2025, 12:10 PM)TDOSS Wrote:

(03-07-2025, 11:41 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: No, I understand history and today's reality much better than you do evidently. So no, we're not going to war with Russia. No, we're not going to give Ukraine a blank cheque to fight a war they cannot win. No, we're not going to fund European bloodlust again. No, Russia is not a threat to the USA. No, it's not our war.

We offered a deal to Ukraine that would've put economic and logistical stress on Putin to move for peace, and Zelensky said no. The offer that you hand waved away because you just want to argue and blame America for all the world's problems. 

Are you going to fly out tonight or is all this in the abstract for you? Because I think your repeated refusal to accept my offer means that you don't really believe what you're saying, you just like to argue on the internet. Otherwise, pack your bags, they'll issue your rifle when you get there.

Yeah no. Of course Russia's a threat. It’s already attacked by cyber attacks and by trying to manipulate our elections. It’s attacking other countries in Europe and trying to establish mother Soviet bloc. The Cold War is coming.

Who’s blaming America for the world’s problems? Ain’t me. You seem to go from one argument to another with no logic. It’s not like you have offered rebuttal from what I’ve stated. Just Russian talking points.

European bloodlust? You mean Russian blood lust. You seem to forget who the aggressor here is.

We didn’t offer Ukraine crap. Cripes trump was talking deals with Putin WITHOUT UKRAINE IN THE ROOM. How is that working with Ukraine?

Tell you what. For a third time. Explain in detail how pausing aid to Ukraine and suspending cyber attacks on Russia will send a message to Putin that he should withdraw troops from Russia and seek peace

As far as going to Ukraine?

When do you fly out to Russia my Russia loving friend. You know to stop European blood lust? Or perhaps you are already in Moscow writing Russia propaganda to fill the DUVAL forums with?

Oh dear, it seems I've broken you. You're so far removed from reality that it's simply not worth the effort. Fort he last time, there is no message to Putin because Zelensky reneged on a deal with the USA. You simply cannot accept that simple fact, so nothing else matters at this point. Your guy had his chance and blew it. Now the USA is stepping back as one would expect when one party walks away from the agreement. I guess it's back to just mockery for you now.

And why would I fly to Russia? I'm an American who puts America's interest first. You are the one who wants America to pay the price for defending your favored nation but are expressly unwilling to sacrifice anything of your actual own, even when the expense of logistics is paid for you. So basically, you should put up or shut up. We of course know that you won't because you're nothing but a chickenhawk hiding behind your betters, demanding that they die in your place.

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