(03-07-2025, 01:10 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

(03-07-2025, 12:10 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Yeah no. Of course Russia's a threat. It’s already attacked by cyber attacks and by trying to manipulate our elections. It’s attacking other countries in Europe and trying to establish mother Soviet bloc. The Cold War is coming.

Who’s blaming America for the world’s problems? Ain’t me. You seem to go from one argument to another with no logic. It’s not like you have offered rebuttal from what I’ve stated. Just Russian talking points.

European bloodlust? You mean Russian blood lust. You seem to forget who the aggressor here is.

We didn’t offer Ukraine crap. Cripes trump was talking deals with Putin WITHOUT UKRAINE IN THE ROOM. How is that working with Ukraine?

Tell you what. For a third time. Explain in detail how pausing aid to Ukraine and suspending cyber attacks on Russia will send a message to Putin that he should withdraw troops from Russia and seek peace

As far as going to Ukraine?

When do you fly out to Russia my Russia loving friend. You know to stop European blood lust? Or perhaps you are already in Moscow writing Russia propaganda to fill the DUVAL forums with?

Oh dear, it seems I've broken you. You're so far removed from reality that it's simply not worth the effort. Fort he last time, there is no message to Putin because Zelensky reneged on a deal with the USA. You simply cannot accept that simple fact, so nothing else matters at this point. Your guy had his chance and blew it. Now the USA is stepping back as one would expect when one party walks away from the agreement. I guess it's back to just mockery for you now.

And why would I fly to Russia? I'm an American who puts America's interest first. You are the one who wants America to pay the price for defending your favored nation but are expressly unwilling to sacrifice anything of your actual own, even when the expense of logistics is paid for you. So basically, you should put up or shut up. We of course know that you won't because you're nothing but a chickenhawk hiding behind your betters, demanding that they die in your place.

Yeah that’s funny. Let’s review shall we? History has taught us that appeasement of authoritarian aggression has led two world wars that the us ended up in after trying isolationist policy that failed.

History has taught us about the Soviet era Cold War which cost the us trillions of dollars and led us close to the brink of nuclear destruction a number of times.

And now we have an authoritarian Soviet era leader.. who is aggressively attacking Ukraine in a clear attempt to build another Russian Soviet style empire. One who has done cyber attacks against the US and attempted to influence us elections and is filling us media and internet with Russian propaganda

You have nothing to refute this..REPEATED my self THREE TIMES to explain and all you've done is deflect.

Oh and what has trump done? Publicly ended military cyber defense against Russia. Publicly announced peace talks with Russia without Ukrainian involvement.  Publicly ambushed the Ukrainian president and paused us aid to Ukraine and now stopped sharing us intelligence with Ukraine.

And you claim “ there is no message to Putin“?!?!?! Why are you being so obtuse???

Obvious that is a huge message to Putin to keep being aggressively and the US will roll over and give him whatever he wants.

I seriously doubt you are an American. If you are you certainly not putting America first. You are putting Russia first. End of story.

You still cant answer a simple question.

Explain in detail how pausing aid to Ukraine , suspending us intelligence sharing and suspending cyber attacks on Russia will send a message to Putin that he should withdraw troops from Russia and seek peace???

According to you by the way, I am sacrificing my US tax dollars to help Ukraine. I’ve already put my life on the line for my community. I don’t want to have to watch my boys end up fighting a proxy war with Russia or end up in world war 3 against Russia. Thats what your appeasement policy will lead to.

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