(07-01-2025, 03:06 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(07-01-2025, 02:03 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: I slightly disagree. If Spec Ops are used correctly they can manipulate situations quite effectively and without much collateral damage. When they're not (or when politicians need to refill their coffers with the Military Industrial Complex) then the big guns, that being the regular military, are brought in to break things. 

The CIA is a different kind of weapon that is also very effective when used correctly but their problem is the FBI. Had those two agencies actually cooperated in the 90s there likely wouldn't have been a 9/11 but they couldn't, or wouldn't, and the result was not only 9/11 but the Patriot Act, Homeland Security and a beefed up TSA, none of which would have been necessary had the CIA and FBI acted like adults instead of toddlers.

I could go on about this but I have other things to do.

Correct, spec ops can break institutions similar to how the CIA breaks them.  But they don't construct new ones.