Quote:Not trying to get into about that whole situation but basically we did. Before we were planning the Gateway sports project we offered to build him a new stadium aswell and he turned it down saying he just wanted money for renovations and etc so he got it. Then like half a decade later we look to build the Indians and Cavs new park/arena he starts freaking out saying "How come they get a new stadium?" and we were just like dude we just upgraded your stadium now you want a new one? But anyway if you want to know more just google it. You'll find out how much of a piece of scum Art was.

 

As to your point about how a team-ownership, front office, players, equipment, etc. mean anything to our history. How come the Jaguars keep their history? Haven't your ownership, front office, players, and equipment changed? If anything our uniforms are the same lol. Do you consider teams that stopped play during WW2 history before then null and void as well?

 

That's a pretty dumb question, don't you think?  Some things change, but the Jaguars are still playing in the same city, in the same stadium, in front of the same fans. 

 

Teams that stopped play during WW2 returned to the same cities, and the same fans that they were playing in front of before the war.  If you really don't see the difference here, this is a pointless discussion.  The team that plays in Cleveland today is an expansion franchise that came into the league in 1999.  They got the history from the team that played there, but that was a bone the league threw to the fans in Cleveland.  That team didn't earn any of that history. 

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