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Derek Carr -- am I missing something?

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Quote:Arm strength and quick release, maybe.  But a lot of prospects in the past who failed to make it work in the NFL had good arm strength.  It helps that a prospect has nice arm strength, but it shouldn't be a sole reason why he receives a first round grade.

 

Experiece -- well, most of the QB prospects have all had at least 3-4 years of experience, and some had much tougher competition than Carr.  Not sure why you made this a point.

 

Football IQ -- how do you quantify such a thing? Is there any concrete proof that he has better "football IQ" than Bridgewater or Manziel? Also, I hate the term "football iq".  So what if a player can memorize the playbook faster than other players, it dosen't do him much if he gets rattle and had no idea what to do after he takes a couple of hits.  Personally, I like the term "football instinct" better because it pertains to pocket awareness and knowing what to do when things break down.  If that the case, Carr is the worst among the top 5 because data have shown that he sucks when being pressured.

 

Pedigree -- hmm...not something Carr should brag about.

 

I'm not saying that carr won't work out and have a solid career.  I'm just saying that as a "prospect" -- based on his whole body of work and compare that to his peers and previous classes -- he is defnitely not a first rounder.
 

 

A player's grade isn't about comparison. Either Carr is graded in the first round or he is not. It doesn't matter where he fits within the QB rankings; 10 QB's could have first round grades or 0 QB's could have first round grades. You could be the 8th best QB and still have a first round grade or be the top QB and receive a second round grade.

 

 

Arm strength & quick release- So what? You know what prospects don't make it in the NFL? Weak armed slow-release QB's. That's a weak argument.

 

Experience- Why? Because it is true. I didn't say he has more experience or other QB's don't have any experience. He started 3 years against defenses that scheme just the same as anyone else.

 

Football IQ- Football instinct is something different. Reading defenses and knowing the playbook is an important part of being a QB.

 

Pedigree- Why not? Seriously... his brother was drafted number one overall to an expansion team that had no resemblance to an NFL team. They had zero veteran leadership and a O-Line that was terrible. So David was a first round talent but Derek is not?

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Messages In This Thread
Derek Carr -- am I missing something? - by FBT - 05-04-2014, 10:51 PM
Derek Carr -- am I missing something? - by FBT - 05-04-2014, 10:56 PM
Derek Carr -- am I missing something? - by FBT - 05-04-2014, 11:00 PM
Derek Carr -- am I missing something? - by FBT - 05-04-2014, 11:18 PM
Derek Carr -- am I missing something? - by FBT - 05-05-2014, 12:09 AM
Derek Carr -- am I missing something? - by knarnn - 05-05-2014, 12:55 PM
Derek Carr -- am I missing something? - by knarnn - 05-05-2014, 02:37 PM
Derek Carr -- am I missing something? - by FBT - 05-05-2014, 02:38 PM
Derek Carr -- am I missing something? - by Kodiak - 08-28-2014, 10:55 PM
Derek Carr -- am I missing something? - by FBT - 08-28-2014, 11:35 PM
Derek Carr -- am I missing something? - by PAjagsfan - 05-05-2014, 12:35 PM



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