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Derek Carr -- am I missing something?

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(This post was last modified: 05-05-2014, 02:26 PM by shangster.)

Quote:A player's grade isn't about comparison. Either Carr is graded in the first round or he is not. It doesn't matter where he fits within the QB rankings; 10 QB's could have first round grades or 0 QB's could have first round grades. You could be the 8th best QB and still have a first round grade or be the top QB and receive a second round grade.

That has nothing to do with what I said.  There is a grading system where they compare current prospects to past prospects for a reason.  For example, how does his body of work compare to previous class of prospects i.e. Sam Bradford, Stafford, Gabbert, Ponder...etc.  Tell me, what body of work that Carr has shown on game tape that he is a first round grade?


 

Arm strength & quick release- So what? You know what prospects don't make it in the NFL? Weak armed slow-release QB's. That's a weak argument.

A lot of QB selected in the first, mid to late round who had good arm stregnth and release faded out of the league after a couple of years. 


 

Experience- Why? Because it is true. I didn't say he has more experience or other QB's don't have any experience. He started 3 years against defenses that scheme just the same as anyone else.

It's an irrelevant arguement because most prospects who entered the draft have had at least 3-4 years of starting experience. 


 

Football IQ- Football instinct is something different. Reading defenses and knowing the playbook is an important part of being a QB. 

How is he going to response to being pressured in the NFL when he can't even do that in college (when compare to other prospects in this class)?


 

Pedigree- Why not? Seriously... his brother was drafted number one overall to an expansion team that had no resemblance to an NFL team. They had zero veteran leadership and a O-Line that was terrible. So David was a first round talent but Derek is not?

Aaron Rogers is a future HoF, but Jordan (is that his name?) Rogers went undrafted and was cut by....the Jags.
 

Before this become a flame thread (that is not my intention), I am actually very curious to know how exactly did Carr climb up the draft board in the eyes of the media.  This is one of the strangest rise up the draft board -- or just straight hyping from the media -- from a QB that I've seen in a couple of years.

 

This is his game against USC.  All I see is that he ran the typical spread offense where dropbacks and footwork weren't required.  Correct me if I'm wrong but this is all I see: a first-read, get the ball out of his hand as fast as possible, bubble screens to the left/right with an occasional roll out to the left/right.  He didn't make any adjustment from the line of scrimmage.  In fact, I don't see much pressure from the USC pass rushers at all, mostly because he got the ball out of his hand to his first read as fast as he could.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8zGUnF3atI#t=273

(Again, I just don't see it.  What is it that people are seeing that I can't see myself?)

 

If there's another video where Carr actually displayed first round material on game tape, please post it.  I really want to see it.


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Messages In This Thread
Derek Carr -- am I missing something? - by FBT - 05-04-2014, 10:51 PM
Derek Carr -- am I missing something? - by FBT - 05-04-2014, 10:56 PM
Derek Carr -- am I missing something? - by FBT - 05-04-2014, 11:00 PM
Derek Carr -- am I missing something? - by FBT - 05-04-2014, 11:18 PM
Derek Carr -- am I missing something? - by FBT - 05-05-2014, 12:09 AM
Derek Carr -- am I missing something? - by knarnn - 05-05-2014, 12:55 PM
Derek Carr -- am I missing something? - by shangster - 05-05-2014, 02:24 PM
Derek Carr -- am I missing something? - by knarnn - 05-05-2014, 02:37 PM
Derek Carr -- am I missing something? - by FBT - 05-05-2014, 02:38 PM
Derek Carr -- am I missing something? - by Kodiak - 08-28-2014, 10:55 PM
Derek Carr -- am I missing something? - by FBT - 08-28-2014, 11:35 PM



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