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Malaysia Airlines plane shot down

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Quote:Yes, the Boeing that was shot down was flying at 10,000 meters which is the normal flying altitude for commercial planes. Military planes fly below that altitude according to what I've been told. My point is anyone that can operate the BUK system which is not an easy system to operate, you keep making it sound like it's a little harder then an RPG, would know that a plane at 10,000 meters is NOT a military target.

 

there is next to zero chance the plane was shot down by accident or by someone that didn't know it wasn't a military target.

 

As for the audio that's hardly conclusive, it's two people speaking Russian that's it. That could literally be anyone on that audio recording.
I inquired about this with a friend of mine who is a former naval aviator, flying F14s for the Navy, and commanding a squadron on the east coast up until he retired a few years ago.  The guy who told you there is some sort of protocol for planes flying at different altitudes is incorrect.  The limitations for altitude for military transports or any other military aircraft is based on their specific tolerances. 

 

In 1983, the Russians used the same "hardly conclusive" line when the US played audio of the pilot shooting down the KAL flight.  You don't know any better than anyone else that it's hardly conclusive, just like you don't know for certain that there's zero chance the plane was shot down by accident. 

 

This isn't a uniformed military we're talking about here.  It's rebels. 


Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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Malaysia Airlines plane shot down - by EricC85 - 07-17-2014, 02:05 PM
Malaysia Airlines plane shot down - by knarnn - 07-17-2014, 03:01 PM
Malaysia Airlines plane shot down - by FBT - 07-17-2014, 03:08 PM
Malaysia Airlines plane shot down - by UCF Knight - 07-17-2014, 03:08 PM
Malaysia Airlines plane shot down - by FBT - 07-17-2014, 03:09 PM
Malaysia Airlines plane shot down - by DragonFury - 07-17-2014, 03:19 PM
Malaysia Airlines plane shot down - by EricC85 - 07-17-2014, 03:41 PM
Malaysia Airlines plane shot down - by FBT - 07-17-2014, 03:42 PM
Malaysia Airlines plane shot down - by FBT - 07-17-2014, 03:44 PM
Malaysia Airlines plane shot down - by DragonFury - 07-17-2014, 03:46 PM
Malaysia Airlines plane shot down - by EricC85 - 07-17-2014, 03:53 PM
Malaysia Airlines plane shot down - by Dakota - 07-17-2014, 04:02 PM
Malaysia Airlines plane shot down - by FBT - 07-17-2014, 04:07 PM
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Malaysia Airlines plane shot down - by EricC85 - 07-17-2014, 04:14 PM
Malaysia Airlines plane shot down - by badger - 07-17-2014, 04:18 PM
Malaysia Airlines plane shot down - by EricC85 - 07-17-2014, 04:18 PM
Malaysia Airlines plane shot down - by EricC85 - 07-17-2014, 04:18 PM
Malaysia Airlines plane shot down - by FBT - 07-17-2014, 04:19 PM
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Malaysia Airlines plane shot down - by EricC85 - 07-17-2014, 04:24 PM
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