Quote:Can you be specific? I've enjoyed this thread and talking with oklahomie we have different opions on what would stimulate the economy and how to approach the debt but I don't recall mud slinging?

 

How about this sort of thing? 

 

Quote:There is a clear delineation between left and right in the real world.  It's in the land of politics where the divisions are murky, and anyone who tries to steer the GOP back to where it should be is considered a right wing fanatic while people like 0bama who are really leftist radicals at their core are considered moderates by people such as yourself.  It's laughable. 

 

The politics threads are full of it. Pure mud slinging lunacy straight out of the politics of division playbook.

 

Obama a 'radical leftist'? My goodness, how little understanding of history does someone have to have to call Obama to a 'radical leftist'? Yet because people are so blinded by this left vs right claptrap they believe truly ridiculous things like this that they heard on the talk radio station that supports what they already think.

 

The no 1 aim of democracy is to get elected, forget morals or ideals, get elected and stay elected, that's the meal ticket and its the elephant (no pun intended) in the room everyone ignores. In a divided country, that means being the most centrist and and denouncing your opponents as right or left wing lunatics using TV friendly soundbites and thus winning small number of voters who are not already pre-programed to vote how their parents voted. In simple terms if you are seen as too far left, you lose, see Gore. Too far right, you lose, see McCain. That anyone would think any serious political candidate wants to bring any ideology into office is crazy, yet people still throw these ideologies around like they are backed by anyone in power or they mean something concrete.

 

The fact that you two have talked about some economic theories that goes over most people's heads and subject to worldwide factors and are not controllable by national governments does not change the fact that American politics these day is just rich men who have never done a day's work other than maybe an 'advisory' job on daddies company, backed by their rich friends shouting lies at each other. Its the same with any 2 party state. There is no room whatsoever for veering left and right or for ideology they are just abstract terms which have no meaning whatsoever outside of a college political history class. Despite this, it's what people focus on.

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