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Why Liberalism will fail

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Quote:I disagree. 

 

I think the thing about Reagan was not as much his positions on specific issues as it was his core convictions in general.  In the areas that matter to most true conservatives, he was spot on.  In areas where he was willing to compromise, I think most conservatives today would be willing to look past that.  Why?  Because he had a spine.  The current crop of politicians who have tried to claim his mantle don't have that core belief.  They're nothing more than political chameleons who are willing to say or do whatever they need in order to get elected. 

 

There were core principles Reagan would not abandon, but there was also a practicality in other areas where he knew he was dealing with a congress his party did not control, so he had to work with them.  It hurt Reagan at times to deal with democrats on things like immigration where he was given promises by congress that they would deal with securing our borders if he'd sign into law an amnesty bill back in 1986.  Congress never bothered with enforcement, and the rest is history.  It's the same thing with the Reagan tax cuts.  Congress made a deal to pass his tax cuts that included promises to cut spending, and they never did.

 

It's funny to look at the situation today where congress is divided, and the White House is under democrat control.  This president sees no need to negotiate with the other side.  He says he'll do so happily, but the truth is that in his world, negotiation is defined as agreeing with his position.  He's not backing off any positions that aren't beholding to his handlers on the left.  He's not going to sit down and craft any meaningful legislation that brings republicans in for a real negotiation.  It's his way or no way regardless of what he says.

 

Reagan showed he was far more of a statesman when it came to negotiating with the other side.  0bama should take notes, but his ego won't allow that to happen. 
 

I take it you do not agree that Republicans developed a strategy of obstructionism as soon as Obama was elected.

 

Anyway, Reagan compromised. Look what happens to supposedly moderate Republicans if they even hint at compromise.

If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
- Bob Marley

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