Quote:Well than you've got about 30 options in Europe. Healthcare isn't a right anywhere, even under single payer systems. The only difference when you hand over health care to government is now you get to wait DMV style for the flu shot. 

I understand and acknowledge the issues with government ran healthcare that is currently implemented as well as other possible option. That was not my point. 

 

You said you would rather live free and die broke. I said I want to live in a society where healthcare is a right and not a business.

 

I think as a species we are predisposed to societal living and that we benefit greatly both in scientific advancement as well as cultural growth. I see a society where healthcare is easily available to every single living person as the pinnacle of morality and humanity. I think it should be a right and I disagree completely with the notion that it should not be. 

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