Quote:Sure but they where not executed you stated inocent people have been executed.

If they where exhonerated than the system worked maybe late but it worked.

If you eliminate the death penalty do they get all those appeals? Would they still not be in prison?

I don't see how ending capital punishment changes inocent unjustly convicted that's a casualty of a justice system. I'd argue inocent a being unjustly convicted is a cause for less laws but changing punishment doesn't fix anything.

I get your point, but the problem is you are coming at it from such a huge fundamentally different frame of logic that it is hard to put it into this, for me.


I agree that if the concept was to rehabilitate people, things would be better, on so many ways.


The appeals are unavoidable, as they all boil down to fundemental right. The delays that are caused aren't the fault of the defendant, for the most part (I fully recognize that they are going to take the full allotment of time in capital cases, for obvious reasons) - the problem is how long it takes courts to rule.


I agree that eliminating the death penalty doesn't prevent unjust convictions, I just think it is as big a deal as it gets that society is responsible for the killing of innocent people, and that it should NEVER HAPPEN.


Dakota is being disingenuous, as we all can see right through his argument. He, as many are, are ok with innocent people being murdered by the state.


That is against everything our nation has ever stood for is the problem wi that, he gets it, and really creates an impossible situation for himself.


It is also why he has to look ridiculous and bury his head in the sand.

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