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We are not the Seahawks

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(This post was last modified: 09-30-2014, 05:41 PM by Caldrac.)

Quote:I just listened to Jaguars Monday , and Prisco mentioned something interesting.  A lot of us assumed the Jaguars are being built in the mold of the Seahawks.  But are they?  And should they?  

 

Prisco sees Bortles' upside as being higher than Russel Wilson and that the Jaguars should be building around him and not around a defense/running game.  What I think he means is basically draft offense based around the passing game, and draft defense based on having a lead and defending the pass, and retain players with those same principals.  

 

Which leads me to Caldwell.  His history is generally of offensive teams built around franchise quarterbacks.  He has no ties to Seattle and the way their team was built, so why would that be his model in the first place?  I don't think Caldwell is trying to build another Seattle Seahawks.  I think he's building the team based on Colts/Hawks model. 

 

So why hire a defensive-minded coach?  My theory is that he expects to have more talent on the offensive side, and expects his quarterback to almost be the coach of the offense, and expects to retain players based moreso on the passing game.  Having a defensive minded coach (if that's even a thing) makes sense when your team is built so that that side of the ball will need the most coaching.  In other words someone who can keep developing cheap talent (which is what he's done in Seattle).
 

Defensively. People thought this team was being built like the Seahawks. Which is partly true (that's why Bryant, Blackmon, and Clemons came here). Bradley didn't change his scheme nor how the LEO position works on defense. Caldwell has also targeted rather tall secondary players as well for his scheme when you look at guys like Cyprien, Gratz, and McCray. Offensively. I am not sure. I didn't mistake the fact that Caldwell came from ATL. If he was truly molded after the General Manager in SEA this team would be better already. LOL. Just kidding. It is what it is man. Ultimately. If Bradley was brought here to coach up the defense and coach up "cheap" talent, then that was NOT a very good decision by Caldwell or Khan or both.

 

You hire a man you think is capable of leading a team, not an offense, not just the defense, but the team in it's entirety. It's really odd how this usually plays out though when you look at the history of headcoaches that basically got the job off their abilities they displayed on one side of the football.

 

Billick was known for coaching outstanding offenses in the NFL (See the 98' Vikings) - He goes to BAL and is forever remembered for coaching arguably one of the greatest defenses ever for over a pretty solid period of time.

 

Dungy leaves TB for IND - His defense was "okay" but it was ultimately the offense that got him there, an offense he never had in TB.

 

Gruden did virutally the same thing in TB when OAK traded him there - Again, an offensive guru - who, when you look back at the 02' season will be known for it's defense - not the offense (thought it was good that year).

 

Mike Smith comes to mind as well. Mike made a good living here when we had a solid defense. He goes to ATL. And it's honestly the defense there that's held that team back. Not Matt Ryan and that offense.

 

At the end of the day though. It comes down to your Jimmy's and Joe's and not your X's and O's. And I really believe that. With that said. If the coach sees that Jimmy and Joe ain't compatible with his X's and O's. He needs to change something up schemactially in my book. If Gearhart is a North/South runner... stop running pitch plays and sweeps with him. If Robinson is a quick guy that's shifty.... stop lining him up in the I-Formation and expecting him to be Jim Brown. Same goes for any other player on the team.


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We are not the Seahawks - by VisitingCobra - 09-30-2014, 03:53 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by MoJagFan - 09-30-2014, 03:58 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by jagforlife85 - 09-30-2014, 04:07 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by badger - 09-30-2014, 04:16 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by WingerDinger - 09-30-2014, 04:19 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by badger - 09-30-2014, 04:22 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by Etdavis2006 - 09-30-2014, 04:23 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by WingerDinger - 09-30-2014, 04:25 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by Etdavis2006 - 09-30-2014, 04:26 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by WingerDinger - 09-30-2014, 04:27 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by EricC85 - 09-30-2014, 04:27 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by badger - 09-30-2014, 04:28 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by WingerDinger - 09-30-2014, 04:29 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by NYC4jags - 09-30-2014, 04:31 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by JaguarsWoman - 09-30-2014, 04:32 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by VisitingCobra - 09-30-2014, 04:33 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by WingerDinger - 09-30-2014, 04:33 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by badger - 09-30-2014, 04:35 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by VisitingCobra - 09-30-2014, 04:46 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by badger - 09-30-2014, 04:51 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by NYC4jags - 09-30-2014, 04:56 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by knarnn - 09-30-2014, 04:58 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by Jags32250 - 09-30-2014, 04:59 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by VisitingCobra - 09-30-2014, 05:03 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by knarnn - 09-30-2014, 05:04 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by HURRICANE!!! - 09-30-2014, 05:08 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by VisitingCobra - 09-30-2014, 05:11 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by NYC4jags - 09-30-2014, 05:13 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by badger - 09-30-2014, 05:18 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by VisitingCobra - 09-30-2014, 05:23 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by VisitingCobra - 09-30-2014, 05:27 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by Jags32250 - 09-30-2014, 05:28 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by DavidzPimpSuit - 09-30-2014, 05:29 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by Caldrac - 09-30-2014, 05:38 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by VisitingCobra - 09-30-2014, 06:04 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by WingerDinger - 09-30-2014, 06:13 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by CSO14 - 09-30-2014, 06:47 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by Guest - 09-30-2014, 07:07 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by NYC4jags - 09-30-2014, 07:15 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by KCJAGSFAN - 09-30-2014, 07:40 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by jaguarmvp - 09-30-2014, 07:47 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by SeaSea - 10-01-2014, 08:30 AM
We are not the Seahawks - by DewtheMathis - 10-01-2014, 08:42 AM
We are not the Seahawks - by badger - 10-01-2014, 09:14 AM
We are not the Seahawks - by Jaguarforlife - 10-01-2014, 09:16 AM
We are not the Seahawks - by MightyRx - 10-01-2014, 09:25 AM
We are not the Seahawks - by badger - 10-01-2014, 09:33 AM
We are not the Seahawks - by VisitingCobra - 10-01-2014, 09:50 AM
We are not the Seahawks - by badger - 10-01-2014, 09:54 AM
We are not the Seahawks - by VisitingCobra - 10-01-2014, 10:10 AM
We are not the Seahawks - by Jags437 - 10-01-2014, 11:14 AM
We are not the Seahawks - by Jags437 - 10-01-2014, 11:15 AM
We are not the Seahawks - by palatypus - 10-01-2014, 11:21 AM
We are not the Seahawks - by badger - 10-01-2014, 11:25 AM
We are not the Seahawks - by muddylips - 10-01-2014, 12:24 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by palatypus - 10-02-2014, 11:51 AM
We are not the Seahawks - by VisitingCobra - 10-02-2014, 12:02 PM
We are not the Seahawks - by Joe - 10-02-2014, 12:06 PM
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