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Gus needs time - Check the Facts

  • Offline Etdavis2006
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10-01-2014, 02:11 PM

Quote:Let's break this down into a simple logical operation.


Either Gus is an elite coach capable of helping the roster achieve above its level and the roster is so bad that even though it's been historically bad so far during his tenure he's making it better to even get to historically bad...


Or, Gus is just a run of the mill kind of head coach that simply only achieves at the rate a run of the mill coach would for a given roster talent level, or even possibly below that.


Which do you think it is? That he's got a group that's overachieving to even get to historical levels of terribleness, and he's so far doing as bad a job as Mularky, (which would mean Mularky was an elite coach, too, since he achieved similarly to Gus) or that we're really just seeing what Gus is capable of without having a very talented roster given to him?


Logically speaking, which of these scenarios seems closest to reality?


I feel you logic is flawed so I'll chose neither and use my own reasoning. I can't think of one coach that has had a bad team and won with them. I'm not talking about the team with a few players and they made plays. I'm talking about not one elite level player. Not one true probowler. If you can name that one guy who ever it is I'd still call it an outlier until you proved about 10 more.


Point is no coach in the history of all of sports has ever won and won consistently with a roster full of bad players. It's not just elite coach or nothing. I guess BB in New England is a bad coach now huh? Andy Reid got fired so he must have sucked? Guess Chip Kelly is a master since that team is winning still?
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Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by J-Mizzal - 09-30-2014, 10:06 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Amat3uR - 09-30-2014, 10:35 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by J-Mizzal - 09-30-2014, 11:05 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by MalabarJag - 10-01-2014, 12:00 AM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by BasshunterX - 10-01-2014, 09:30 AM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Oklahomie - 10-01-2014, 09:31 AM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by BasshunterX - 10-01-2014, 09:41 AM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Oklahomie - 10-01-2014, 09:50 AM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Monty - 10-01-2014, 09:54 AM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by JesseJames - 10-01-2014, 09:58 AM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Oklahomie - 10-01-2014, 10:11 AM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by StromStorm - 10-01-2014, 10:51 AM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by finwe - 10-01-2014, 10:58 AM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Oklahomie - 10-01-2014, 10:58 AM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Etdavis2006 - 10-01-2014, 11:00 AM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Etdavis2006 - 10-01-2014, 11:02 AM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by StromStorm - 10-01-2014, 11:06 AM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Caldrac - 10-01-2014, 11:07 AM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Oklahomie - 10-01-2014, 11:10 AM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Jagwired - 10-01-2014, 11:17 AM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Amat3uR - 10-01-2014, 11:34 AM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Amat3uR - 10-01-2014, 11:36 AM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Jags437 - 10-01-2014, 11:45 AM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by MalabarJag - 10-01-2014, 01:18 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by NacD - 10-01-2014, 01:25 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Etdavis2006 - 10-01-2014, 01:29 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Oklahomie - 10-01-2014, 01:47 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by TrueFan - 10-01-2014, 02:03 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Etdavis2006 - 10-01-2014, 02:11 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Oklahomie - 10-01-2014, 02:20 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Etdavis2006 - 10-01-2014, 03:16 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Oklahomie - 10-01-2014, 03:31 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by NYC4jags - 10-01-2014, 03:43 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Bullseye - 10-01-2014, 03:48 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Oklahomie - 10-01-2014, 03:49 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Oklahomie - 10-01-2014, 03:51 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Oklahomie - 10-01-2014, 04:06 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Bullseye - 10-01-2014, 04:06 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by MalabarJag - 10-01-2014, 04:09 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Oklahomie - 10-01-2014, 04:10 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Caldrac - 10-01-2014, 04:11 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Etdavis2006 - 10-01-2014, 04:13 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Oklahomie - 10-01-2014, 04:13 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Bullseye - 10-01-2014, 04:13 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Oklahomie - 10-01-2014, 04:17 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Caldrac - 10-01-2014, 04:17 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by NYC4jags - 10-01-2014, 04:19 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Bullseye - 10-01-2014, 04:25 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Oklahomie - 10-01-2014, 04:34 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Etdavis2006 - 10-01-2014, 05:13 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Oklahomie - 10-01-2014, 05:18 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Oklahomie - 10-01-2014, 05:23 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Etdavis2006 - 10-01-2014, 05:33 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Oklahomie - 10-01-2014, 05:36 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Bullseye - 10-01-2014, 05:38 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Caldrac - 10-01-2014, 05:38 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Jagwired - 10-01-2014, 05:40 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Oklahomie - 10-01-2014, 05:42 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Etdavis2006 - 10-01-2014, 05:44 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Oklahomie - 10-01-2014, 05:47 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Etdavis2006 - 10-01-2014, 05:47 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Etdavis2006 - 10-01-2014, 05:52 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by MalabarJag - 10-01-2014, 06:52 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by MalabarJag - 10-01-2014, 06:53 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by C'MON JAGS - 10-01-2014, 08:16 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by dennisp3 - 10-01-2014, 08:56 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by MalabarJag - 10-01-2014, 09:51 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by jaguarmvp - 10-01-2014, 11:44 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Jags437 - 10-02-2014, 11:45 AM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Oklahomie - 10-02-2014, 01:07 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Atreas - 10-02-2014, 01:10 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Etdavis2006 - 10-02-2014, 01:38 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Etdavis2006 - 10-02-2014, 01:47 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Jinjo - 10-02-2014, 04:47 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by git'er_done - 10-02-2014, 05:12 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Etdavis2006 - 10-02-2014, 07:00 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Mgt1022 - 10-02-2014, 07:14 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Mgt1022 - 10-02-2014, 07:15 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by AlphaJag - 10-02-2014, 10:01 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Shardex - 10-02-2014, 10:15 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by wrong_box - 10-02-2014, 10:23 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Sneakers - 10-02-2014, 10:30 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Scarecrow - 10-02-2014, 11:22 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by wrong_box - 10-02-2014, 11:26 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Sneakers - 10-02-2014, 11:41 PM
Gus needs time - Check the Facts - by Sneakers - 10-02-2014, 11:52 PM
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