Quote:So you're in the "Gus is great, and this roster is so bad that even with him making them better they're still historically bad," camp? If so then okay, but I find it a difficult position to support.

 

If what you're really saying is "he'll be as great as his players" then you're just saying what I'm saying.

 

So far it sure looks like I'm right, it'll be Caldwell that determines Bradley's "level" as a coach.

I don't know.

 

Is Belicheck a great coach?

 

Yes, he won Super Bowls (won 2 as a defensive coordinator under Parcells, won 3 as head coach of the Pats and went to two more).

 

But he WAS fired from Cleveland after producing a losing record, and right now his team is struggling? 

 

What about Mike Shanahan?  Lost in Oakland and got fired...won two Super Bowls in Denver with Elway, won nothing after Elway retired, and just got fired from Washington?

 

What about Rich Kotite?  Rich Kotite's record after his first 20 games as head coach was better than Walsh's or Johnson's and had only one loss in his first two seasons of 17 points or more.

 

Is he better than Walsh?  Is the fact that Walsh produced more blowouot losses in his first two seasons as head coach than Kotite determinative of whether he was a lesser coach than Kotite?  If a roster comparison shows disparate talent levels between Kotite's 1991-1992 Eagles teams and Walsh's 1979-1980 49ers teams, can one conclude that Walsh was only as good as his talent and was therefore a run of the mill coach...like Bradley?

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