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Lessons from Losing

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Quote:1.  Do we even have Bortles with Gruden?  Gruden doesn't necessarily have a long track record developing young QBs.  Most likely, based upon his history, even if he accepted the job, he would have gone with a vet instead-most likely a journeyman.

 

2.  What extra two players from Miami?  If you are talking their first and second round pick from trading up to two (basically the Oakland trade), not only do you miss out on the stud T (Pugh hasn't been great and he is a RT, and Kyle Long is a RT/G type though he is very good), but the only defender in the second round that would be worth the selection based upon who was drafted last year would be Kiko Alonso, who may or may not have been a fit here, who may or may not have blown out his knee like he did this year, who still would not be able to compensate for the blown assignments in the secondary.
 

1. Caldwell (well my idealized scenario version of him) is still GM. He would have still drafted Bortles. Gruden was QB coach in Green Bay when Favre and Brunell were developed there, I think he could do a good job with Bortles.


 

2. We didn't need a stud T, we'd still have Monroe in my scenario. That's part of my difference from Caldwell's actions. From a quick look at the 2013 draft (and trying to remember my thoughts at the time) I'd probably have picked Sharrif Floyd or Eric Reid in the 1st, but there were two excellent DTs available. Eric Reid fills the FS hole. LeVeon Bell would have been a great pick in the 2nd. I claim no player evaluation expertise, but hope that Caldwell would pick the right guy at the slot, whoever that may be.





                                                                          

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Lessons from Losing - by Bullseye - 10-06-2014, 02:20 PM
Lessons from Losing - by SuperJville - 10-06-2014, 02:32 PM
Lessons from Losing - by jaguarmvp - 10-06-2014, 02:32 PM
Lessons from Losing - by knarnn - 10-06-2014, 02:35 PM
Lessons from Losing - by Bullseye - 10-06-2014, 02:36 PM
Lessons from Losing - by SuperJville - 10-06-2014, 02:41 PM
Lessons from Losing - by jaguarmvp - 10-06-2014, 02:45 PM
Lessons from Losing - by FBT - 10-06-2014, 02:47 PM
Lessons from Losing - by SuperJville - 10-06-2014, 02:48 PM
Lessons from Losing - by jaguarmvp - 10-06-2014, 02:50 PM
Lessons from Losing - by Bullseye - 10-06-2014, 02:59 PM
Lessons from Losing - by Bullseye - 10-06-2014, 03:36 PM
Lessons from Losing - by Jason Mathews - 10-06-2014, 03:44 PM
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Lessons from Losing - by MoJagFan - 10-06-2014, 05:17 PM
Lessons from Losing - by The Real Marty - 10-06-2014, 05:45 PM
Lessons from Losing - by muddylips - 10-06-2014, 05:58 PM
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Lessons from Losing - by jagibelieve - 10-06-2014, 05:59 PM
Lessons from Losing - by jaguarmvp - 10-06-2014, 06:22 PM
Lessons from Losing - by jvillejagsn1 - 10-06-2014, 06:26 PM
Lessons from Losing - by Bullseye - 10-06-2014, 06:27 PM
Lessons from Losing - by jaguarmvp - 10-06-2014, 06:28 PM
Lessons from Losing - by NacD - 10-06-2014, 06:32 PM
Lessons from Losing - by jaguarmvp - 10-06-2014, 06:34 PM
Lessons from Losing - by MalabarJag - 10-06-2014, 08:31 PM
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Lessons from Losing - by P. Haze - 10-06-2014, 09:30 PM
Lessons from Losing - by Perro Rabioso - 10-06-2014, 09:37 PM
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Lessons from Losing - by WingerDinger - 10-06-2014, 10:11 PM
Lessons from Losing - by knarnn - 10-06-2014, 10:16 PM
Lessons from Losing - by jaguarmvp - 10-06-2014, 11:48 PM
Lessons from Losing - by MalabarJag - 10-07-2014, 12:12 AM
Lessons from Losing - by Bullseye - 10-07-2014, 05:52 AM
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Lessons from Losing - by Bullseye - 10-07-2014, 09:08 AM
Lessons from Losing - by MalabarJag - 10-07-2014, 11:15 AM
Lessons from Losing - by MalabarJag - 10-07-2014, 11:26 AM
Lessons from Losing - by NYC4jags - 10-07-2014, 11:29 AM
Lessons from Losing - by MoJagFan - 10-07-2014, 11:33 AM
Lessons from Losing - by Bullseye - 10-07-2014, 11:58 AM
Lessons from Losing - by MalabarJag - 10-07-2014, 11:58 AM
Lessons from Losing - by MalabarJag - 10-07-2014, 12:12 PM
Lessons from Losing - by Bon Jagley - 10-07-2014, 12:25 PM
Lessons from Losing - by rollerjag - 10-07-2014, 12:33 PM
Lessons from Losing - by Bullseye - 10-07-2014, 12:38 PM
Lessons from Losing - by MoJagFan - 10-07-2014, 12:49 PM
Lessons from Losing - by Bullseye - 10-07-2014, 12:58 PM
Lessons from Losing - by Predator_NFLFans - 10-07-2014, 01:13 PM
Lessons from Losing - by Bullseye - 10-07-2014, 01:25 PM
Lessons from Losing - by C'MON JAGS - 10-07-2014, 01:36 PM
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