Quote:You could probably make a similar argument for/ against any QB.


At the end of the day all you can do is go by the season he's having....and its top 5.


As said before also......he's now 26-12 with a roster that is not much w/o him.

That's just you discounting the roster. Dwayne Allen is a very good tight end. Reggie Wayne is Reggie Wayne. Hilton is a speedster that makes plays by the plenty. He has his comfort blanket for the past... 5 years? Fleener. The offensive line last night was actually giving him a lot of time even though they were going up against the best defensive player in football. Couldn't stop him, but he had plenty of plays where he had time, and the o line has been pretty good all year.


The defense gives up a lot of points (they do have some good pieces) and I give it to luck that he puts up some good point totals but so do cutler, romo, Eli manning...


If he was more efficient or more accurate I would call him elite but he isn't and over the course of his whole career he hasnt gotten better at the things that hold him back.


If anyone is really going to tell me they watched it all and he isn't inaccurate and he doesn't make bad decisions then there is no point in even trying to have a discussion because you're in denial.

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