Quote:Wow, this got ugly. Its not like TMD is espousing some off the wall concept, what he's saying is still the majority opinion in this country. Just because we are permitting a minority belief to become a cultural norm does not mean that we have to accept it as moral, especially when it directly contradicts a long standing religious norm. We tolerate in the real sense of the word, ie we permit you to make your own choice without endorsing it as proper or moral. The attacks on him show why we often DON'T tolerate such things; not only do you want to do it, you expect us to not only permit, but to approve in spite of our own beliefs that it's wrong and you pull out the ad homs when you dont get your way.