Quote: if Cleveland was as defeatist as some of you, they probably never would have been able to get that deal since they'd be like "oh well, Trent stinks so we'll never be able to make that trade"....or the opposite "you can't deal Trent, once he develops in 500 years, he'll be great, you'll see!!

 

Really? Behaving like a consummate jerk again I see.   Not thinking we should trade Shorts and doubting we'd get a 2nd rounder for a banged up player isn't defeatist you flippin moron - it's realistic and my valid opinion. 

 

Don't rope me in with anyone else's thinking and don't call me a defeatist you arrogant idiot.  You should learn to accept that others have different opinions than you and that doesn't warrant judgement or insults.  Grow up. 

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