Quote:You do realize that it's never going to happen?  Right?  They're never going to change the tax code and add a consumption tax.  There's just too many issues with it.  I suppose that should be a separate topic though, so I won't get into it here.  


Most of them aren't coming here to try to draw welfare (and most of them that do, would still find a way to cheat the system no matter what you do.  If they're cheating the system now, then they'll just find a new way to cheat the new system), most of them come here because they can earn more money.  Not because it's tax free though.  They're going to make more money tax or no tax.  (Otherwise none of them would want worker visas)

 

that's the focus and how we address the problem though, we both agree more money is the main reason the majority of them come here. Now that's a problem because

 

1.) it's money that is distributed and taxes are not collected on.

2.) it takes jobs off the market that otherwise citizens would be doing.

 

There's only two ways to address that, amnesty and now they're tax paying employed citizens (not something that many people would support myself included) or change the way taxes are collected and make sure they're not  collecting benefits not afforded to non-citizens. doing anything other then two options is just patching the leaking dam.

 

I don't think rounding people up to ship them home is a real option, I don't think building a wall or fence would stop anyone, I don't think creating a national database is a good idea. Employers are already prohibited from hiring illegals, you can stiffen the punishment but if that worked we wouldn't have a drug problem in America, so that leaves addressing the reality people from all over the world are going to come here to work. How do we profit from it and make it beneficial to us instead of having an underground black market that cheapens the system.

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