Quote:that's the focus and how we address the problem though, we both agree more money is the main reason the majority of them come here. Now that's a problem because

 

1.) it's money that is distributed and taxes are not collected on.

2.) it takes jobs off the market that otherwise citizens would be doing.

 

There's only two ways to address that, amnesty and now they're tax paying employed citizens (not something that many people would support myself included) or change the way taxes are collected and make sure they're not  collecting benefits not afforded to non-citizens. doing anything other then two options is just patching the leaking dam.

 

I don't think rounding people up to ship them home is a real option, I don't think building a wall or fence would stop anyone, I don't think creating a national database is a good idea. Employers are already prohibited from hiring illegals, you can stiffen the punishment but if that worked we wouldn't have a drug problem in America, so that leaves addressing the reality people from all over the world are going to come here to work. How do we profit from it and make it beneficial to us instead of having an underground black market that cheapens the system.

 

Again, the consumption tax just has too many problems with it.  I don't think rounding people up works either.  Nor do I think building a wall or fence would stop many people (it would stop some, but not many).  


But there's a major difference between Drugs and hiring illegals.


Drugs, much like Alcohol -- the primary motivation is enjoyment.  (Same with prostitution).  The fear of punishment doesn't take away any of the motivation.  For some it enhances it.  

 

Hiring Illegals, the primary motive is monetary.  Significantly reduce that motivation, and you'll reduce the problem of illegal immigration. It won't eliminate it, but you can't eliminate the problem altogether.  

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