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Joeckel is garbage


Quote:The point is, Monroe took 4 years to develop into a solid, not top tier LT.  Joeckel has basically just started his 2nd season as a starting LT in the NFL.  He's had moments where he's struggled, and others where he's looked okay.  No different than what we saw from Monroe during his time here. 

 

It was smart to trade Monroe because he was in a contract year, and more than likely wasn't going to take the kind of pay cut that would be expected if he was moved to RT.  Rather than let him walk, they managed to get something in return for him.  Colvin and Chris Smith are the net result of trading with Baltimore, correct? 
 

Correct. Colvin may very well turn out to be worth more than Monroe. But he was a 4th round pick nonetheless. Had Caldwell just traded the #2 pick in 2013 for 2014 picks he could have gotten a lot more than two late round picks.


 

Every young former draft pick ends up in a contract year. The best teams keep their best players, especially if they are awash in cap room. Monroe was the best player left from the pre-Caldwell group.
 The Ravens re-signed him, and they have one of the best front offices. I don't think their re-signing of Monroe was a mistake.

 

We don't know how Joeckel will turn out. At this point it doesn't look likely that he'll be significantly better than Monroe, and he may be worse. It's always a question of sticking with the known average guy or risking an upgrade. Using the #2 pick in the draft on a possible upgrade/ possible downgrade is just throwing the pick down the toilet.





                                                                          

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Joeckel is garbage - by jagmedic08 - 11-30-2014, 04:09 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 11-30-2014, 04:12 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarsAreBeasting - 11-30-2014, 04:14 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by haveaseat - 11-30-2014, 04:15 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by HiggyJ15 - 11-30-2014, 04:34 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by MR FLORIDA - 11-30-2014, 04:38 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by HiggyJ15 - 11-30-2014, 04:38 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by rocdee - 11-30-2014, 04:39 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jax Jag - 11-30-2014, 04:40 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jerrad - 11-30-2014, 04:40 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by HIGH SCORE - 11-30-2014, 04:40 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by realisticjohn - 11-30-2014, 04:44 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by HiggyJ15 - 11-30-2014, 05:01 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by CSO14 - 11-30-2014, 05:14 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by J-Mizzal - 11-30-2014, 05:15 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by UcfJagsfan - 11-30-2014, 05:16 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by scoobydiesel - 11-30-2014, 05:16 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Warjag - 11-30-2014, 05:17 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarScience95 - 11-30-2014, 05:17 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JagsFanClubOfMD - 11-30-2014, 05:25 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by MR FLORIDA - 11-30-2014, 05:26 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by HiggyJ15 - 11-30-2014, 05:28 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by lastonealive - 11-30-2014, 05:29 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Warjag - 11-30-2014, 06:44 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 11-30-2014, 06:47 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by The_Anchorman - 11-30-2014, 06:49 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jerrad - 11-30-2014, 06:50 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by jaguarmvp - 11-30-2014, 06:52 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by jaglyn - 11-30-2014, 06:52 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Warjag - 11-30-2014, 06:55 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 11-30-2014, 06:57 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by paulyman29 - 11-30-2014, 06:57 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarJosh05 - 11-30-2014, 06:58 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by paulyman29 - 11-30-2014, 07:02 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JAGFAN88 - 11-30-2014, 07:05 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by muddylips - 11-30-2014, 07:08 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 11-30-2014, 07:08 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jaguarforlife - 11-30-2014, 07:08 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 11-30-2014, 07:09 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by pirkster - 11-30-2014, 08:06 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 11-30-2014, 08:10 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by paulyman29 - 11-30-2014, 09:40 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 11-30-2014, 09:44 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by C'MON JAGS - 11-30-2014, 09:49 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Amat3uR - 11-30-2014, 09:49 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarScience95 - 11-30-2014, 10:06 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by flgatorsandjags - 11-30-2014, 10:19 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by fredalwaysajag - 11-30-2014, 10:21 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by CSO14 - 11-30-2014, 10:24 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by pcjagfan1146 - 11-30-2014, 10:24 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarScience95 - 11-30-2014, 10:26 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by CSO14 - 11-30-2014, 10:38 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 11-30-2014, 10:45 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by DavidzPimpSuit - 11-30-2014, 10:49 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by C'MON JAGS - 11-30-2014, 10:50 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JaxxnateNH - 11-30-2014, 11:17 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Tommy - 11-30-2014, 11:41 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 11-30-2014, 11:45 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Achilles - 11-30-2014, 11:49 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 11-30-2014, 11:51 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by CowJag - 12-01-2014, 12:09 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 12:25 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Thundersnow - 12-01-2014, 12:27 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by temporaryname - 12-01-2014, 12:32 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-01-2014, 12:34 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 12:42 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by scoobydiesel - 12-01-2014, 12:47 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Tommy - 12-01-2014, 12:48 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by JagsFanClubOfMD - 12-01-2014, 12:58 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 12:59 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Warjag - 12-01-2014, 01:12 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by P. Haze - 12-01-2014, 01:29 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 02:17 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 12-01-2014, 08:50 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 08:58 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by MarleyJag - 12-01-2014, 08:59 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 09:03 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by The Real Marty - 12-01-2014, 09:08 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Xenochrony - 12-01-2014, 09:39 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by muddylips - 12-01-2014, 09:46 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by flsprtsgod - 12-01-2014, 09:50 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Achilles - 12-01-2014, 09:56 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Cleatwood - 12-01-2014, 09:57 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by thunderbuns - 12-01-2014, 10:01 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by muddylips - 12-01-2014, 10:07 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Achilles - 12-01-2014, 10:08 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by tkappa511 - 12-01-2014, 10:15 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Shack Del Rio - 12-01-2014, 10:18 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jay Carter 904 - 12-01-2014, 10:25 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 10:33 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 10:45 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Shack Del Rio - 12-01-2014, 10:53 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 10:55 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 10:55 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-01-2014, 10:56 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 10:58 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 10:59 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:01 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by oface5446 - 12-01-2014, 11:01 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by knarnn - 12-01-2014, 11:08 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:13 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by knarnn - 12-01-2014, 11:14 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by flsprtsgod - 12-01-2014, 11:14 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:17 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 11:22 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 12-01-2014, 11:22 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 11:25 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 11:26 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by flsprtsgod - 12-01-2014, 11:28 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-01-2014, 11:29 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:31 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SpeedyG - 12-01-2014, 11:34 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by oface5446 - 12-01-2014, 11:34 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 11:39 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 11:41 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:41 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:41 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:42 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:43 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 11:45 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 11:47 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 11:47 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by oface5446 - 12-01-2014, 11:47 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 11:49 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 11:51 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 11:55 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 11:57 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 11:58 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by JVRx21 - 12-01-2014, 11:59 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:00 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 12:01 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:02 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:04 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:04 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:04 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:06 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JVRx21 - 12-01-2014, 12:06 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:07 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JVRx21 - 12-01-2014, 12:07 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:08 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:08 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by NYC4jags - 12-01-2014, 12:09 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JVRx21 - 12-01-2014, 12:10 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Raven09s - 12-01-2014, 12:12 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:12 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:13 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 12:13 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:13 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 12:15 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:18 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:22 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:24 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 12:26 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-01-2014, 12:27 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:30 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:30 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 12:31 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:32 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:33 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:34 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:34 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-01-2014, 12:35 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:36 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:36 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:37 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JAGFAN88 - 12-01-2014, 12:38 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:38 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 12:39 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:39 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:40 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 12:40 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by jackinblack - 12-01-2014, 12:42 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-01-2014, 12:43 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 12:45 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:47 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 12:48 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:52 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:59 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 01:01 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 01:04 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 01:07 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 01:13 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by jackinblack - 12-01-2014, 01:20 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Chuckd - 12-01-2014, 01:21 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 01:21 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by David4499 - 12-01-2014, 01:28 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by jackinblack - 12-01-2014, 01:30 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by jackinblack - 12-01-2014, 01:33 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 01:37 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by David4499 - 12-01-2014, 02:59 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by trunt87 - 12-01-2014, 03:00 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by jackinblack - 12-01-2014, 03:14 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by WingerDinger - 12-01-2014, 03:18 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Senor Fantastico - 12-01-2014, 03:28 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 03:29 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Dejuan Eberhardt - 12-01-2014, 03:44 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by WingerDinger - 12-01-2014, 03:46 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 03:51 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Markulous - 12-01-2014, 03:55 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by jaguarmvp - 12-01-2014, 04:03 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 04:04 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Dejuan Eberhardt - 12-01-2014, 04:09 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by NYC4jags - 12-01-2014, 04:09 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SpeedyG - 12-01-2014, 04:12 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Monty - 12-01-2014, 04:12 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by jagforlife85 - 12-01-2014, 04:12 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by WingerDinger - 12-01-2014, 04:58 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 04:59 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by WingerDinger - 12-01-2014, 05:05 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by jaguarmvp - 12-01-2014, 05:33 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 05:41 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 05:43 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JagNGeorgia - 12-02-2014, 09:03 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FgallosJAGS - 12-02-2014, 09:18 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by pirkster - 12-02-2014, 09:22 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Solid Snake - 12-02-2014, 09:27 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by The_Anchorman - 12-02-2014, 10:08 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JagNGeorgia - 12-02-2014, 10:34 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 12-03-2014, 05:34 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by The Real Marty - 12-03-2014, 07:17 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by thunderbuns - 12-03-2014, 07:20 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by The_Anchorman - 12-03-2014, 08:18 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by P. Haze - 12-03-2014, 10:48 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarsAreBeasting - 12-03-2014, 11:09 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Xenochrony - 12-03-2014, 11:32 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by thunderbuns - 12-03-2014, 11:42 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-03-2014, 11:54 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-03-2014, 12:23 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by WingerDinger - 12-03-2014, 01:39 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Xenochrony - 12-03-2014, 02:04 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by dobie - 12-03-2014, 03:41 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Etdavis2006 - 12-03-2014, 03:53 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Etdavis2006 - 12-03-2014, 04:00 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-03-2014, 05:02 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Cleatwood - 12-03-2014, 05:28 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-03-2014, 05:35 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-03-2014, 05:36 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-03-2014, 05:36 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-03-2014, 05:37 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by MarleyJag - 12-03-2014, 07:16 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SpeedyG - 12-04-2014, 11:40 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-04-2014, 11:49 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SpeedyG - 12-04-2014, 11:55 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jason Mathews - 12-04-2014, 12:56 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by TJBender - 12-04-2014, 01:42 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by flsprtsgod - 12-04-2014, 02:54 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-04-2014, 04:29 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by haveaseat - 12-16-2014, 02:59 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by paulyman29 - 12-16-2014, 03:57 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jerrad - 12-16-2014, 08:44 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by rocdee - 12-16-2014, 09:03 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by David4499 - 12-16-2014, 09:11 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-16-2014, 10:15 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Raven09s - 12-16-2014, 10:37 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Markulous - 12-16-2014, 11:23 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Eye of the Storm - 12-16-2014, 11:32 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-16-2014, 12:08 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-16-2014, 12:14 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 12-16-2014, 03:04 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Markulous - 12-16-2014, 03:10 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Shack Del Rio - 12-16-2014, 03:17 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 12-16-2014, 03:23 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-16-2014, 03:27 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Markulous - 12-16-2014, 03:27 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-16-2014, 08:48 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-16-2014, 08:58 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JagFanP - 12-16-2014, 09:29 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by ji536994 - 12-16-2014, 09:53 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by D6 - 12-16-2014, 10:05 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by TJBender - 12-16-2014, 11:09 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-16-2014, 11:50 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by D6 - 12-17-2014, 12:08 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Warjag - 12-17-2014, 12:11 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Eye of the Storm - 12-17-2014, 12:27 AM



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