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Joeckel is garbage


Quote:I agree with the points highlighted above except for the last one.  This is not a personal bash on Joeckel but a failure on the GM.  If you're 1st round draft pick turns out to be a "serviceable" player then your GM failed on that pick.  You've got to find solid starters/all-Pro players early in the draft.  The bigger point here is not necessarily whether Joeckel ends up being a bust but whether or not we have a GM that can hit on more early round picks then he misses and actually build a sustainable contender.

 

It is too early to make a final judgment on the 2013 class but so far it's not looking good for the early picks.  That's the bigger point here.  Now, maybe Caldwell learned from his 2013 mistakes and has done better in 2014, time will tell.
If you get a long-term starting LT out of that pick, and he's an effective starter in the league, that's validation enough.  As has already been pointed out, the era of the dominant LT is a memory.  Even the best in the league right now have their struggles. 

Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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Joeckel is garbage - by jagmedic08 - 11-30-2014, 04:09 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 11-30-2014, 04:12 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarsAreBeasting - 11-30-2014, 04:14 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by haveaseat - 11-30-2014, 04:15 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by HiggyJ15 - 11-30-2014, 04:34 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by MR FLORIDA - 11-30-2014, 04:38 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by HiggyJ15 - 11-30-2014, 04:38 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by rocdee - 11-30-2014, 04:39 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jax Jag - 11-30-2014, 04:40 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jerrad - 11-30-2014, 04:40 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by HIGH SCORE - 11-30-2014, 04:40 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by realisticjohn - 11-30-2014, 04:44 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by HiggyJ15 - 11-30-2014, 05:01 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by CSO14 - 11-30-2014, 05:14 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by J-Mizzal - 11-30-2014, 05:15 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by UcfJagsfan - 11-30-2014, 05:16 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by scoobydiesel - 11-30-2014, 05:16 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Warjag - 11-30-2014, 05:17 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarScience95 - 11-30-2014, 05:17 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JagsFanClubOfMD - 11-30-2014, 05:25 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by MR FLORIDA - 11-30-2014, 05:26 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by HiggyJ15 - 11-30-2014, 05:28 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by lastonealive - 11-30-2014, 05:29 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Warjag - 11-30-2014, 06:44 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 11-30-2014, 06:47 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by The_Anchorman - 11-30-2014, 06:49 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jerrad - 11-30-2014, 06:50 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by jaguarmvp - 11-30-2014, 06:52 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by jaglyn - 11-30-2014, 06:52 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Warjag - 11-30-2014, 06:55 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 11-30-2014, 06:57 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by paulyman29 - 11-30-2014, 06:57 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarJosh05 - 11-30-2014, 06:58 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by paulyman29 - 11-30-2014, 07:02 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JAGFAN88 - 11-30-2014, 07:05 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by muddylips - 11-30-2014, 07:08 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 11-30-2014, 07:08 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jaguarforlife - 11-30-2014, 07:08 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 11-30-2014, 07:09 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by pirkster - 11-30-2014, 08:06 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 11-30-2014, 08:10 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by paulyman29 - 11-30-2014, 09:40 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 11-30-2014, 09:44 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by C'MON JAGS - 11-30-2014, 09:49 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Amat3uR - 11-30-2014, 09:49 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarScience95 - 11-30-2014, 10:06 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by flgatorsandjags - 11-30-2014, 10:19 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by fredalwaysajag - 11-30-2014, 10:21 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by CSO14 - 11-30-2014, 10:24 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by pcjagfan1146 - 11-30-2014, 10:24 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarScience95 - 11-30-2014, 10:26 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by CSO14 - 11-30-2014, 10:38 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 11-30-2014, 10:45 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by DavidzPimpSuit - 11-30-2014, 10:49 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by C'MON JAGS - 11-30-2014, 10:50 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JaxxnateNH - 11-30-2014, 11:17 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Tommy - 11-30-2014, 11:41 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 11-30-2014, 11:45 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Achilles - 11-30-2014, 11:49 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 11-30-2014, 11:51 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by CowJag - 12-01-2014, 12:09 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 12:25 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Thundersnow - 12-01-2014, 12:27 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by temporaryname - 12-01-2014, 12:32 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-01-2014, 12:34 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 12:42 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by scoobydiesel - 12-01-2014, 12:47 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Tommy - 12-01-2014, 12:48 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by JagsFanClubOfMD - 12-01-2014, 12:58 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 12:59 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Warjag - 12-01-2014, 01:12 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by P. Haze - 12-01-2014, 01:29 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 02:17 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 12-01-2014, 08:50 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 08:58 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by MarleyJag - 12-01-2014, 08:59 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 09:03 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by The Real Marty - 12-01-2014, 09:08 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Xenochrony - 12-01-2014, 09:39 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by muddylips - 12-01-2014, 09:46 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by flsprtsgod - 12-01-2014, 09:50 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Achilles - 12-01-2014, 09:56 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Cleatwood - 12-01-2014, 09:57 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by thunderbuns - 12-01-2014, 10:01 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by muddylips - 12-01-2014, 10:07 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Achilles - 12-01-2014, 10:08 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by tkappa511 - 12-01-2014, 10:15 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Shack Del Rio - 12-01-2014, 10:18 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jay Carter 904 - 12-01-2014, 10:25 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 10:33 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 10:45 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Shack Del Rio - 12-01-2014, 10:53 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 10:55 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 10:55 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-01-2014, 10:56 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 10:58 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 10:59 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:01 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by oface5446 - 12-01-2014, 11:01 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by knarnn - 12-01-2014, 11:08 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:13 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by knarnn - 12-01-2014, 11:14 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by flsprtsgod - 12-01-2014, 11:14 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:17 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 11:22 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 12-01-2014, 11:22 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 11:25 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 11:26 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by flsprtsgod - 12-01-2014, 11:28 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-01-2014, 11:29 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:31 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SpeedyG - 12-01-2014, 11:34 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by oface5446 - 12-01-2014, 11:34 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 11:39 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 11:41 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:41 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:41 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:42 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:43 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 11:45 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 11:47 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 11:47 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by oface5446 - 12-01-2014, 11:47 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 11:49 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 11:51 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 11:55 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 11:57 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 11:58 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by JVRx21 - 12-01-2014, 11:59 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:00 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 12:01 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:02 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:04 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:04 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:04 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:06 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JVRx21 - 12-01-2014, 12:06 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:07 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JVRx21 - 12-01-2014, 12:07 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:08 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:08 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by NYC4jags - 12-01-2014, 12:09 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JVRx21 - 12-01-2014, 12:10 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Raven09s - 12-01-2014, 12:12 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:12 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:13 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 12:13 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:13 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 12:15 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:18 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:22 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:24 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 12:26 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-01-2014, 12:27 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:30 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:30 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 12:31 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:32 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:33 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:34 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:34 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-01-2014, 12:35 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:36 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:36 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:37 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JAGFAN88 - 12-01-2014, 12:38 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:38 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 12:39 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:39 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:40 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 12:40 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by jackinblack - 12-01-2014, 12:42 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-01-2014, 12:43 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 12:45 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:47 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 12:48 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:52 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:59 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 01:01 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 01:04 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 01:07 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 01:13 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by jackinblack - 12-01-2014, 01:20 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Chuckd - 12-01-2014, 01:21 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 01:21 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by David4499 - 12-01-2014, 01:28 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by jackinblack - 12-01-2014, 01:30 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by jackinblack - 12-01-2014, 01:33 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 01:37 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by David4499 - 12-01-2014, 02:59 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by trunt87 - 12-01-2014, 03:00 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by jackinblack - 12-01-2014, 03:14 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by WingerDinger - 12-01-2014, 03:18 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Senor Fantastico - 12-01-2014, 03:28 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 03:29 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Dejuan Eberhardt - 12-01-2014, 03:44 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by WingerDinger - 12-01-2014, 03:46 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 03:51 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Markulous - 12-01-2014, 03:55 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by jaguarmvp - 12-01-2014, 04:03 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 04:04 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Dejuan Eberhardt - 12-01-2014, 04:09 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by NYC4jags - 12-01-2014, 04:09 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SpeedyG - 12-01-2014, 04:12 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Monty - 12-01-2014, 04:12 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by jagforlife85 - 12-01-2014, 04:12 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by WingerDinger - 12-01-2014, 04:58 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 04:59 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by WingerDinger - 12-01-2014, 05:05 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by jaguarmvp - 12-01-2014, 05:33 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 05:41 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 05:43 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JagNGeorgia - 12-02-2014, 09:03 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by FgallosJAGS - 12-02-2014, 09:18 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by pirkster - 12-02-2014, 09:22 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Solid Snake - 12-02-2014, 09:27 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by The_Anchorman - 12-02-2014, 10:08 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JagNGeorgia - 12-02-2014, 10:34 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 12-03-2014, 05:34 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by The Real Marty - 12-03-2014, 07:17 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by thunderbuns - 12-03-2014, 07:20 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by The_Anchorman - 12-03-2014, 08:18 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by P. Haze - 12-03-2014, 10:48 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarsAreBeasting - 12-03-2014, 11:09 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Xenochrony - 12-03-2014, 11:32 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by thunderbuns - 12-03-2014, 11:42 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-03-2014, 11:54 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-03-2014, 12:23 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by WingerDinger - 12-03-2014, 01:39 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Xenochrony - 12-03-2014, 02:04 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by dobie - 12-03-2014, 03:41 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Etdavis2006 - 12-03-2014, 03:53 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Etdavis2006 - 12-03-2014, 04:00 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-03-2014, 05:02 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Cleatwood - 12-03-2014, 05:28 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-03-2014, 05:35 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-03-2014, 05:36 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-03-2014, 05:36 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-03-2014, 05:37 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by MarleyJag - 12-03-2014, 07:16 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SpeedyG - 12-04-2014, 11:40 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-04-2014, 11:49 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by SpeedyG - 12-04-2014, 11:55 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jason Mathews - 12-04-2014, 12:56 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by TJBender - 12-04-2014, 01:42 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by flsprtsgod - 12-04-2014, 02:54 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-04-2014, 04:29 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by haveaseat - 12-16-2014, 02:59 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by paulyman29 - 12-16-2014, 03:57 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Jerrad - 12-16-2014, 08:44 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by rocdee - 12-16-2014, 09:03 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by David4499 - 12-16-2014, 09:11 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-16-2014, 10:15 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Raven09s - 12-16-2014, 10:37 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Markulous - 12-16-2014, 11:23 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Eye of the Storm - 12-16-2014, 11:32 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-16-2014, 12:08 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-16-2014, 12:14 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 12-16-2014, 03:04 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Markulous - 12-16-2014, 03:10 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Shack Del Rio - 12-16-2014, 03:17 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 12-16-2014, 03:23 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-16-2014, 03:27 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by Markulous - 12-16-2014, 03:27 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-16-2014, 08:48 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-16-2014, 08:58 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by JagFanP - 12-16-2014, 09:29 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by ji536994 - 12-16-2014, 09:53 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by D6 - 12-16-2014, 10:05 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by TJBender - 12-16-2014, 11:09 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-16-2014, 11:50 PM
Joeckel is garbage - by D6 - 12-17-2014, 12:08 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Warjag - 12-17-2014, 12:11 AM
Joeckel is garbage - by Eye of the Storm - 12-17-2014, 12:27 AM



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