Joeckel is garbage

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Joeckel is garbage

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#235

12-03-2014, 05:28 PM

Quote:This is wrong. You draft a LT that high because A player with that skill set doesn't exist past the top of the second round if you are lucky. If he develops into a starter after three years then it was a great pick. Anything above decent play from that is gravy on top.

I think the issue with a lot of people here is the expectations for players. I'm curious to find out who the masses think is the best LT in the league right now. Even that best LT gets beat occasionally. To think a second year player is to not give up sacks and play mistake free is asking to much.

Joe Thomas, Tyron Smith and Jason Peters

Messages In This Thread

Joeckel is garbage - by jagmedic08 - 11-30-2014, 04:09 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 11-30-2014, 04:12 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarsAreBeasting - 11-30-2014, 04:14 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by haveaseat - 11-30-2014, 04:15 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by HiggyJ15 - 11-30-2014, 04:34 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by MR FLORIDA - 11-30-2014, 04:38 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by HiggyJ15 - 11-30-2014, 04:38 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by rocdee - 11-30-2014, 04:39 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jax Jag - 11-30-2014, 04:40 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jerrad - 11-30-2014, 04:40 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by HIGH SCORE - 11-30-2014, 04:40 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by realisticjohn - 11-30-2014, 04:44 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by HiggyJ15 - 11-30-2014, 05:01 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by CSO14 - 11-30-2014, 05:14 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by J-Mizzal - 11-30-2014, 05:15 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by UcfJagsfan - 11-30-2014, 05:16 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by scoobydiesel - 11-30-2014, 05:16 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Warjag - 11-30-2014, 05:17 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarScience95 - 11-30-2014, 05:17 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JagsFanClubOfMD - 11-30-2014, 05:25 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by MR FLORIDA - 11-30-2014, 05:26 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by HiggyJ15 - 11-30-2014, 05:28 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by lastonealive - 11-30-2014, 05:29 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Warjag - 11-30-2014, 06:44 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 11-30-2014, 06:47 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by The_Anchorman - 11-30-2014, 06:49 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jerrad - 11-30-2014, 06:50 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by jaguarmvp - 11-30-2014, 06:52 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by jaglyn - 11-30-2014, 06:52 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Warjag - 11-30-2014, 06:55 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 11-30-2014, 06:57 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by paulyman29 - 11-30-2014, 06:57 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarJosh05 - 11-30-2014, 06:58 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by paulyman29 - 11-30-2014, 07:02 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JAGFAN88 - 11-30-2014, 07:05 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by muddylips - 11-30-2014, 07:08 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 11-30-2014, 07:08 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jaguarforlife - 11-30-2014, 07:08 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 11-30-2014, 07:09 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by pirkster - 11-30-2014, 08:06 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 11-30-2014, 08:10 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by paulyman29 - 11-30-2014, 09:40 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 11-30-2014, 09:44 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by C'MON JAGS - 11-30-2014, 09:49 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Amat3uR - 11-30-2014, 09:49 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarScience95 - 11-30-2014, 10:06 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by flgatorsandjags - 11-30-2014, 10:19 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by fredalwaysajag - 11-30-2014, 10:21 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by CSO14 - 11-30-2014, 10:24 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by pcjagfan1146 - 11-30-2014, 10:24 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarScience95 - 11-30-2014, 10:26 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by CSO14 - 11-30-2014, 10:38 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 11-30-2014, 10:45 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by DavidzPimpSuit - 11-30-2014, 10:49 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by C'MON JAGS - 11-30-2014, 10:50 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JaxxnateNH - 11-30-2014, 11:17 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Tommy - 11-30-2014, 11:41 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 11-30-2014, 11:45 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Achilles - 11-30-2014, 11:49 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 11-30-2014, 11:51 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by CowJag - 12-01-2014, 12:09 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 12:25 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Thundersnow - 12-01-2014, 12:27 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by temporaryname - 12-01-2014, 12:32 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-01-2014, 12:34 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 12:42 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by scoobydiesel - 12-01-2014, 12:47 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Tommy - 12-01-2014, 12:48 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by JagsFanClubOfMD - 12-01-2014, 12:58 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 12:59 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Warjag - 12-01-2014, 01:12 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by P. Haze - 12-01-2014, 01:29 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 02:17 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 12-01-2014, 08:50 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 08:58 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by MarleyJag - 12-01-2014, 08:59 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 09:03 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by The Real Marty - 12-01-2014, 09:08 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Xenochrony - 12-01-2014, 09:39 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by muddylips - 12-01-2014, 09:46 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by flsprtsgod - 12-01-2014, 09:50 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Achilles - 12-01-2014, 09:56 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Cleatwood - 12-01-2014, 09:57 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by thunderbuns - 12-01-2014, 10:01 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by muddylips - 12-01-2014, 10:07 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Achilles - 12-01-2014, 10:08 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by tkappa511 - 12-01-2014, 10:15 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Shack Del Rio - 12-01-2014, 10:18 AM

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Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 10:33 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 10:45 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Shack Del Rio - 12-01-2014, 10:53 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 10:55 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 10:55 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-01-2014, 10:56 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 10:58 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 10:59 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:01 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by oface5446 - 12-01-2014, 11:01 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by knarnn - 12-01-2014, 11:08 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:13 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by knarnn - 12-01-2014, 11:14 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by flsprtsgod - 12-01-2014, 11:14 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:17 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 11:22 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 12-01-2014, 11:22 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 11:25 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 11:26 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by flsprtsgod - 12-01-2014, 11:28 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-01-2014, 11:29 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:31 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SpeedyG - 12-01-2014, 11:34 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by oface5446 - 12-01-2014, 11:34 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 11:39 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 11:41 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:41 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:42 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:43 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 11:45 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 11:47 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 11:47 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by oface5446 - 12-01-2014, 11:47 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 11:49 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 11:51 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 11:55 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 11:57 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 11:58 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by JVRx21 - 12-01-2014, 11:59 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:00 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 12:01 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:02 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:04 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:04 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:04 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:06 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JVRx21 - 12-01-2014, 12:06 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:07 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JVRx21 - 12-01-2014, 12:07 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:08 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:08 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by NYC4jags - 12-01-2014, 12:09 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JVRx21 - 12-01-2014, 12:10 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Raven09s - 12-01-2014, 12:12 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:12 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:13 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 12:13 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:13 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 12:15 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:18 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:22 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:24 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 12:26 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-01-2014, 12:27 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:30 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:30 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 12:31 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:32 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:33 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:34 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:34 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-01-2014, 12:35 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:36 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:36 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:37 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JAGFAN88 - 12-01-2014, 12:38 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:38 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 12:39 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:39 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:40 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 12:40 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by jackinblack - 12-01-2014, 12:42 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-01-2014, 12:43 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 12:45 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:47 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 12:48 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:52 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:59 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 01:01 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 01:04 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 01:07 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 01:13 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by jackinblack - 12-01-2014, 01:20 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Chuckd - 12-01-2014, 01:21 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 01:21 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by David4499 - 12-01-2014, 01:28 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by jackinblack - 12-01-2014, 01:30 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by jackinblack - 12-01-2014, 01:33 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 01:37 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by David4499 - 12-01-2014, 02:59 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by trunt87 - 12-01-2014, 03:00 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by jackinblack - 12-01-2014, 03:14 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by WingerDinger - 12-01-2014, 03:18 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Senor Fantastico - 12-01-2014, 03:28 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 03:29 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Dejuan Eberhardt - 12-01-2014, 03:44 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by WingerDinger - 12-01-2014, 03:46 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 03:51 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Markulous - 12-01-2014, 03:55 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by jaguarmvp - 12-01-2014, 04:03 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 04:04 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Dejuan Eberhardt - 12-01-2014, 04:09 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by NYC4jags - 12-01-2014, 04:09 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SpeedyG - 12-01-2014, 04:12 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Monty - 12-01-2014, 04:12 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by jagforlife85 - 12-01-2014, 04:12 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by WingerDinger - 12-01-2014, 04:58 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 04:59 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by WingerDinger - 12-01-2014, 05:05 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by jaguarmvp - 12-01-2014, 05:33 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 05:41 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 05:43 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JagNGeorgia - 12-02-2014, 09:03 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FgallosJAGS - 12-02-2014, 09:18 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by pirkster - 12-02-2014, 09:22 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Solid Snake - 12-02-2014, 09:27 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by The_Anchorman - 12-02-2014, 10:08 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JagNGeorgia - 12-02-2014, 10:34 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 12-03-2014, 05:34 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by The Real Marty - 12-03-2014, 07:17 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by thunderbuns - 12-03-2014, 07:20 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by The_Anchorman - 12-03-2014, 08:18 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by P. Haze - 12-03-2014, 10:48 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarsAreBeasting - 12-03-2014, 11:09 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Xenochrony - 12-03-2014, 11:32 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by thunderbuns - 12-03-2014, 11:42 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-03-2014, 11:54 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-03-2014, 12:23 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by WingerDinger - 12-03-2014, 01:39 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Xenochrony - 12-03-2014, 02:04 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by dobie - 12-03-2014, 03:41 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Etdavis2006 - 12-03-2014, 03:53 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Etdavis2006 - 12-03-2014, 04:00 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-03-2014, 05:02 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Cleatwood - 12-03-2014, 05:28 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-03-2014, 05:35 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-03-2014, 05:36 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-03-2014, 05:37 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by MarleyJag - 12-03-2014, 07:16 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SpeedyG - 12-04-2014, 11:40 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-04-2014, 11:49 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SpeedyG - 12-04-2014, 11:55 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jason Mathews - 12-04-2014, 12:56 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by TJBender - 12-04-2014, 01:42 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by flsprtsgod - 12-04-2014, 02:54 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-04-2014, 04:29 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by haveaseat - 12-16-2014, 02:59 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by paulyman29 - 12-16-2014, 03:57 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jerrad - 12-16-2014, 08:44 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by rocdee - 12-16-2014, 09:03 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by David4499 - 12-16-2014, 09:11 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-16-2014, 10:15 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Raven09s - 12-16-2014, 10:37 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Markulous - 12-16-2014, 11:23 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Eye of the Storm - 12-16-2014, 11:32 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-16-2014, 12:08 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-16-2014, 12:14 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 12-16-2014, 03:04 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Markulous - 12-16-2014, 03:10 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Shack Del Rio - 12-16-2014, 03:17 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 12-16-2014, 03:23 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-16-2014, 03:27 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Markulous - 12-16-2014, 03:27 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-16-2014, 08:48 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-16-2014, 08:58 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JagFanP - 12-16-2014, 09:29 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by ji536994 - 12-16-2014, 09:53 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by D6 - 12-16-2014, 10:05 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by TJBender - 12-16-2014, 11:09 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-16-2014, 11:50 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by D6 - 12-17-2014, 12:08 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Warjag - 12-17-2014, 12:11 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Eye of the Storm - 12-17-2014, 12:27 AM

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