Quote:Torture doesn't produce results. What happens on Fox's '24' tv show and reality are not equal.

 

The reality is that the majority of the public has no idea what happens or how frequently it occurs.  Intelligence gathering can be a dark, dirty business.

 

Quote:the objection to torture shouldn't be it's effectiveness. The objection is it's compromise of morality. If we're simply willing to forfeit the moral high ground for the sake of security that is the SAME exact argument terrorist make when committing acts of terrorism. 

 

Do people believe only guilty parties are tortured? Is anyone really comfortable with giving our government the authority to torture with the only justification being the sake of security? These moral compromises are what have lead us to this problem in the first place, we interfere in foreign affairs on the justification of the greater good.

 

It's a double edge sword.  If we refuse to use a technique that our enemies will gladly use simply based on morality, then we will lose period.  Think about taking a knife to a gun fight.

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