Joeckel is garbage

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Joeckel is garbage

MalabarJag
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#271

12-16-2014, 11:50 PM

Quote: I'm not criticizing your comments. But here's a question that comes to mind.

Lets say for discussion sake that the Jaguars didn't trade Eugene Monroe during last season. In order to keep Monroe long term, what would have been your course of action? Knowing that Monroe was set to hit the open market as an UFA.

Negotiate a contract extension. Pointing out that you will target the interior OL in free agency so he wouldn't have to spend another season lined up next to a stiff might help seal the deal.
If that fails, there is always the possibility of using the franchise tag.

But the bigger problem was not just trading him, but trading him for so little. From the statements released, it seems like 1) Caldwell did not initiate contact with other teams, and only traded Monroe after the Ravens contacted him, and 2) did not shop Monroe around after the Ravens made an offer to see if the Jags could get more. Whether you're buying a car or trading a LT, you don't take the first offer unless you deem it ridiculously high. Two 3rd day picks for a good starting LT is not even in the ballpark.

A 3rd option, which is the one I would have taken, would have been to extend Monroe before the 2013 draft, sign Andre Smith as a free agent RT, and trade down from the #2 pick. For those who will pop up and say that trading down is nearly impossible, the Raiders did it from the #3 pick, and there's no reason to think Miami would not have given the same trade for the #2 pick.

"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

Messages In This Thread

Joeckel is garbage - by jagmedic08 - 11-30-2014, 04:09 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 11-30-2014, 04:12 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarsAreBeasting - 11-30-2014, 04:14 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by haveaseat - 11-30-2014, 04:15 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by HiggyJ15 - 11-30-2014, 04:34 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by MR FLORIDA - 11-30-2014, 04:38 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by HiggyJ15 - 11-30-2014, 04:38 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by rocdee - 11-30-2014, 04:39 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jax Jag - 11-30-2014, 04:40 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jerrad - 11-30-2014, 04:40 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by HIGH SCORE - 11-30-2014, 04:40 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by realisticjohn - 11-30-2014, 04:44 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by HiggyJ15 - 11-30-2014, 05:01 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by CSO14 - 11-30-2014, 05:14 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by J-Mizzal - 11-30-2014, 05:15 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by UcfJagsfan - 11-30-2014, 05:16 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by scoobydiesel - 11-30-2014, 05:16 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Warjag - 11-30-2014, 05:17 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarScience95 - 11-30-2014, 05:17 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JagsFanClubOfMD - 11-30-2014, 05:25 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by MR FLORIDA - 11-30-2014, 05:26 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by HiggyJ15 - 11-30-2014, 05:28 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by lastonealive - 11-30-2014, 05:29 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Warjag - 11-30-2014, 06:44 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 11-30-2014, 06:47 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by The_Anchorman - 11-30-2014, 06:49 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jerrad - 11-30-2014, 06:50 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by jaguarmvp - 11-30-2014, 06:52 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by jaglyn - 11-30-2014, 06:52 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Warjag - 11-30-2014, 06:55 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 11-30-2014, 06:57 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by paulyman29 - 11-30-2014, 06:57 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarJosh05 - 11-30-2014, 06:58 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by paulyman29 - 11-30-2014, 07:02 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JAGFAN88 - 11-30-2014, 07:05 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by muddylips - 11-30-2014, 07:08 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 11-30-2014, 07:08 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jaguarforlife - 11-30-2014, 07:08 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 11-30-2014, 07:09 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by pirkster - 11-30-2014, 08:06 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 11-30-2014, 08:10 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by paulyman29 - 11-30-2014, 09:40 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 11-30-2014, 09:44 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by C'MON JAGS - 11-30-2014, 09:49 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Amat3uR - 11-30-2014, 09:49 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarScience95 - 11-30-2014, 10:06 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by flgatorsandjags - 11-30-2014, 10:19 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by fredalwaysajag - 11-30-2014, 10:21 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by CSO14 - 11-30-2014, 10:24 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by pcjagfan1146 - 11-30-2014, 10:24 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarScience95 - 11-30-2014, 10:26 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by CSO14 - 11-30-2014, 10:38 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 11-30-2014, 10:45 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by DavidzPimpSuit - 11-30-2014, 10:49 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by C'MON JAGS - 11-30-2014, 10:50 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JaxxnateNH - 11-30-2014, 11:17 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Tommy - 11-30-2014, 11:41 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 11-30-2014, 11:45 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Achilles - 11-30-2014, 11:49 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 11-30-2014, 11:51 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by CowJag - 12-01-2014, 12:09 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 12:25 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Thundersnow - 12-01-2014, 12:27 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by temporaryname - 12-01-2014, 12:32 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-01-2014, 12:34 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 12:42 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by scoobydiesel - 12-01-2014, 12:47 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Tommy - 12-01-2014, 12:48 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by JagsFanClubOfMD - 12-01-2014, 12:58 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 12:59 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Warjag - 12-01-2014, 01:12 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by P. Haze - 12-01-2014, 01:29 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 02:17 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 12-01-2014, 08:50 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 08:58 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by MarleyJag - 12-01-2014, 08:59 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 09:03 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by The Real Marty - 12-01-2014, 09:08 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Xenochrony - 12-01-2014, 09:39 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by muddylips - 12-01-2014, 09:46 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by flsprtsgod - 12-01-2014, 09:50 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Achilles - 12-01-2014, 09:56 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Cleatwood - 12-01-2014, 09:57 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by thunderbuns - 12-01-2014, 10:01 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by muddylips - 12-01-2014, 10:07 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Achilles - 12-01-2014, 10:08 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by tkappa511 - 12-01-2014, 10:15 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Shack Del Rio - 12-01-2014, 10:18 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jay Carter 904 - 12-01-2014, 10:25 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 10:33 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 10:45 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Shack Del Rio - 12-01-2014, 10:53 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 10:55 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 10:55 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-01-2014, 10:56 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 10:58 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 10:59 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:01 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by oface5446 - 12-01-2014, 11:01 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by knarnn - 12-01-2014, 11:08 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:13 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by knarnn - 12-01-2014, 11:14 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by flsprtsgod - 12-01-2014, 11:14 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:17 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 11:22 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 12-01-2014, 11:22 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 11:25 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 11:26 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by flsprtsgod - 12-01-2014, 11:28 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-01-2014, 11:29 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:31 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SpeedyG - 12-01-2014, 11:34 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by oface5446 - 12-01-2014, 11:34 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 11:39 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 11:41 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:41 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:42 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 11:43 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 11:45 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 11:47 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 11:47 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by oface5446 - 12-01-2014, 11:47 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 11:49 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 11:51 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 11:55 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 11:57 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 11:58 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by JVRx21 - 12-01-2014, 11:59 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:00 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-01-2014, 12:01 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:02 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:04 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:04 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:04 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:06 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JVRx21 - 12-01-2014, 12:06 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:07 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JVRx21 - 12-01-2014, 12:07 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:08 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:08 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by NYC4jags - 12-01-2014, 12:09 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JVRx21 - 12-01-2014, 12:10 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Raven09s - 12-01-2014, 12:12 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:12 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:13 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 12:13 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:13 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 12:15 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:18 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:22 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:24 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 12:26 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-01-2014, 12:27 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:30 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:30 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 12:31 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:32 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:33 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:34 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:34 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-01-2014, 12:35 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:36 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:36 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:37 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JAGFAN88 - 12-01-2014, 12:38 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:38 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 12:39 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:39 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:40 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 12:40 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by jackinblack - 12-01-2014, 12:42 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-01-2014, 12:43 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 12:45 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 12:47 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 12:48 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FBT - 12-01-2014, 12:52 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 12:59 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 01:01 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 01:04 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 01:07 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 01:13 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by jackinblack - 12-01-2014, 01:20 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Chuckd - 12-01-2014, 01:21 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 01:21 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by David4499 - 12-01-2014, 01:28 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by jackinblack - 12-01-2014, 01:30 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by jackinblack - 12-01-2014, 01:33 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 01:37 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by David4499 - 12-01-2014, 02:59 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by trunt87 - 12-01-2014, 03:00 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by jackinblack - 12-01-2014, 03:14 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by WingerDinger - 12-01-2014, 03:18 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Senor Fantastico - 12-01-2014, 03:28 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Bullseye - 12-01-2014, 03:29 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Dejuan Eberhardt - 12-01-2014, 03:44 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by WingerDinger - 12-01-2014, 03:46 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 03:51 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Markulous - 12-01-2014, 03:55 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by jaguarmvp - 12-01-2014, 04:03 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 04:04 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Dejuan Eberhardt - 12-01-2014, 04:09 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by NYC4jags - 12-01-2014, 04:09 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SpeedyG - 12-01-2014, 04:12 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Monty - 12-01-2014, 04:12 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by jagforlife85 - 12-01-2014, 04:12 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by WingerDinger - 12-01-2014, 04:58 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-01-2014, 04:59 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by WingerDinger - 12-01-2014, 05:05 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by jaguarmvp - 12-01-2014, 05:33 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by B2hibry - 12-01-2014, 05:41 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-01-2014, 05:43 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JagNGeorgia - 12-02-2014, 09:03 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by FgallosJAGS - 12-02-2014, 09:18 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by pirkster - 12-02-2014, 09:22 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Solid Snake - 12-02-2014, 09:27 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by The_Anchorman - 12-02-2014, 10:08 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JagNGeorgia - 12-02-2014, 10:34 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 12-03-2014, 05:34 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by The Real Marty - 12-03-2014, 07:17 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by thunderbuns - 12-03-2014, 07:20 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by The_Anchorman - 12-03-2014, 08:18 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by P. Haze - 12-03-2014, 10:48 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by JaguarsAreBeasting - 12-03-2014, 11:09 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Xenochrony - 12-03-2014, 11:32 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by thunderbuns - 12-03-2014, 11:42 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-03-2014, 11:54 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-03-2014, 12:23 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by WingerDinger - 12-03-2014, 01:39 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Xenochrony - 12-03-2014, 02:04 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by dobie - 12-03-2014, 03:41 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Etdavis2006 - 12-03-2014, 03:53 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Etdavis2006 - 12-03-2014, 04:00 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jest101 - 12-03-2014, 05:02 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Cleatwood - 12-03-2014, 05:28 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-03-2014, 05:35 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-03-2014, 05:36 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-03-2014, 05:37 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by MarleyJag - 12-03-2014, 07:16 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SpeedyG - 12-04-2014, 11:40 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-04-2014, 11:49 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by SpeedyG - 12-04-2014, 11:55 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jason Mathews - 12-04-2014, 12:56 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by TJBender - 12-04-2014, 01:42 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by flsprtsgod - 12-04-2014, 02:54 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-04-2014, 04:29 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by haveaseat - 12-16-2014, 02:59 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by paulyman29 - 12-16-2014, 03:57 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Jerrad - 12-16-2014, 08:44 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by rocdee - 12-16-2014, 09:03 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by David4499 - 12-16-2014, 09:11 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-16-2014, 10:15 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Raven09s - 12-16-2014, 10:37 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Markulous - 12-16-2014, 11:23 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Eye of the Storm - 12-16-2014, 11:32 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-16-2014, 12:08 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-16-2014, 12:14 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 12-16-2014, 03:04 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Markulous - 12-16-2014, 03:10 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Shack Del Rio - 12-16-2014, 03:17 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Banatha - 12-16-2014, 03:23 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by badger - 12-16-2014, 03:27 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by Markulous - 12-16-2014, 03:27 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-16-2014, 08:48 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by SuperJville - 12-16-2014, 08:58 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by JagFanP - 12-16-2014, 09:29 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by ji536994 - 12-16-2014, 09:53 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by D6 - 12-16-2014, 10:05 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by TJBender - 12-16-2014, 11:09 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by MalabarJag - 12-16-2014, 11:50 PM

Joeckel is garbage - by D6 - 12-17-2014, 12:08 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Warjag - 12-17-2014, 12:11 AM

Joeckel is garbage - by Eye of the Storm - 12-17-2014, 12:27 AM

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