Quote:That's fiat currency it has nothing to do with any of this. And if we want to have that conversation I have a very big problem with fiat currency.

 

 

Benefits are not synonymous with handout. I said everyone including the military is being conditioned to expect government benefits. Yes they are earned but they are still benefits paid for by the government and taxation. 

 

 

Yea I know how the VA works it's the prime example of socialized medicine. The VA is funded by tax dollars it's one of the most dysfunctional forms of healthcare and it's what Obama-care is going to lead to for everyone. 

 

I said everything provided by government has to be paid for through forced taxation. I'm not arguing the sailors shouldn't be fed, of course and they should be fed the best. I'm not trying to condemn the military or anyone associated with the military I have a profound respect for you guys and what you do. That doesn't however mean we can't have a discussion on the topic. 

 

 

 

No one's getting their panties in a wad, we're discussing if some forms of socialism are acceptable and others are not. From what I'd gather in this conversation most are ok with redistribution so long as a service is provided in accordance to the payment. So my question is are you guys ok with doing the same for other government workers, teachers, police, firefighters, trash collectors, IRS, politicians, ect.....

 

If not then it's only selective socialism people are ok with, I'm not sure I agree with that. 

 

That doesn't change my respect or gratification for military members.