Quote:That's fiat currency it has nothing to do with any of this. And if we want to have that conversation I have a very big problem with fiat currency.

 

 

Benefits are not synonymous with handout. I said everyone including the military is being conditioned to expect government benefits. Yes they are earned but they are still benefits paid for by the government and taxation. 

 

 

Yea I know how the VA works it's the prime example of socialized medicine. The VA is funded by tax dollars it's one of the most dysfunctional forms of healthcare and it's what Obama-care is going to lead to for everyone. 

 

I said everything provided by government has to be paid for through forced taxation. I'm not arguing the sailors shouldn't be fed, of course and they should be fed the best. I'm not trying to condemn the military or anyone associated with the military I have a profound respect for you guys and what you do. That doesn't however mean we can't have a discussion on the topic. 

 

 

 

No one's getting their panties in a wad, we're discussing if some forms of socialism are acceptable and others are not. From what I'd gather in this conversation most are ok with redistribution so long as a service is provided in accordance to the payment. So my question is are you guys ok with doing the same for other government workers, teachers, police, firefighters, trash collectors, IRS, politicians, ect.....

 

If not then it's only selective socialism people are ok with, I'm not sure I agree with that. 

 

That doesn't change my respect or gratification for military members. 

 

 

Ok let us discuss this avenue.  Your local firemen and policemen are in a union.  Do you really want to compare what they get after their term of service is up compared to the military?  No disrespect intended to those civilian institutions but do you really want to compare the two?  Now let us add regular civilians working at the local DMV.  Do they deserve the same consideration?  Also inferred is those that do nothing but get government benefits are on the same plane.  They are not!  These are 3 different discussions.  Folks on the dole of the government teat should not be compared with those that work for the government.  Folks that work for the government should not be compared with those that enlist in the US Military.

 

It is not the same discussion in any of the three cases.  Not all socialism (as you state it) is the same.  

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