Quote:I'm sure that other have already pointed it out, but this has got to be one of the dumbest things I've seen from you.

 

You are so blinded by these hardcore Libertarian views. The government requires men and women to accomplish their goals, and servicemen and women offer their goods / services (themselves) for minimal compensation. Compensating them is not socialism. Hell, the market has already established that their services require much more compensation. Instead of offering up such ludicrous claims, how would you handle compensating people for your ideal military? Or, would you assume "the market" would handle it? These low salaries also buy something that mercenaries and the like don't offer--loyalty and patriotism. You shouldn't ignore that, either. 

 

We've been debating post employment benefits, there's a difference. Fringe benefits can only be distributed through socialist programs, that doesn't make them good or bad, it's just simply the only way to distribute revenue for no longer employed individuals. Now some people take offense when pointing out that a good portion of society is dependent on socialist programs one way or another but that doesn't change reality.

 

You could build an argument that all payments from government are a form of social redistribution, I'm not making that argument however. My point was to CSO that the programs he was complaining about being cut hurt his ability to argue we've spent to much on government programs.

 

It all boils down to this really, everyone is ok with cutting back government UNTIL it's coming out of their pocket. If you're really for reducing government that means across the board, reducing the military, privatizing public services such as the post office, eduction, healthcare, lending branches for government employees, insurance programs for government employees, municipal services and so on. 

 

Problem is conservatives support social programs for the military, police and national defense. Liberals support social programs for welfare, education and the enviroment. Then all government does is grow.

 

Have at it, I've said my peace, enjoy the Socialist States of America! Just don't cry about Obama's socialist policy if your not willing to first recognize your own socialist preferences.

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