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The Tail that Wags the Dog

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01-29-2015, 08:14 AM

Quote:Can someone explain to me in an easy to understand way the deal with Israel? Why we fund them and why everyone seems to hate them? It's hard to find an answer that doesn't get complicated. 
 

They are powerful politically because of the bipartisan nature of their support.    A lot of the people who support them have support for the state of Israel as their top priority, and those people are spread across both political parties, which makes an unusual cocktail of one-issue voters spread across both parties.   Jews have voted mostly democratic, and evangelicals have voted mostly republican, and those are the two groups that support Israel the most, and that makes both policial parties very reluctant to be seen as not supporting Israel for fear of alienating part of their base. 

 

The hatred comes from two other very divergent groups: Anti-semites on the one hand, and on the other hand, people who think Israel is just playing us for patsies as they put settlements on more and more land, land they have conceded in the past is not theirs to take.  But they're taking it anyway by settling Jews on occupied land.   Add to that the war with the Palestinians, where the Israelis are seen by some as not caring about civilian casualties and lots of innocent civilians have their homes destroyed and their children killed and it winds up on TV. 

 

If you look at the history of it all, anti-semitism ran so deep prior to WWII that even the United States would not take Jewish refugees trying to escape the Nazis, so they wound up going to what at that time was called Palestine.  Large waves of Jews went to Palestine before and after WWII, and they started advocating the creation of a "Jewish state."   Of course, this created a lot of friction with the Arabs who lived there, and in 1948, a civil war was fought, which the Jews won, and the Arabs were expelled from what became the state of Israel.   That's the Palestinian cause- they want to get their homes and property back, which they say was illegally stolen from them. 

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The Tail that Wags the Dog - by The Real Marty - 01-26-2015, 10:13 AM
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The Tail that Wags the Dog - by EricC85 - 01-27-2015, 02:02 PM
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The Tail that Wags the Dog - by The Real Marty - 01-27-2015, 03:15 PM
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The Tail that Wags the Dog - by Deacon - 01-27-2015, 03:21 PM
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