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Vacination Debate

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Quote:First great information and depth on the subject. Based on the information you are sharing 97% of those that receive vaccinations are not at threat from non-vaccinated children, so my question is how is it such a large threat for there to be some minority of  non-vaccinated individuals in society. Even if in some crazy situation the majority of people did not receive a vaccination, couldn't one just get the offered vaccination and have a 97% chance of immunity? Is the argument because of the 3% chance the vaccine won't work we must make 100% of the population take the vaccine regardless of their own free will? The 3% number is of those who can have the vaccine, the actual number of the total population is much larger because of the other groups I mentioned. The idea is to get to the Herd Immunity number to protect those who cannot be vaccinated, and to reach that number we need a large portion of Group 5 to also participate because even 3% of 300 million people is a huge scope. Just the Disney outbreak shows that a group of vaccinated people are at risk, and those people might've been protected had the other group been willing or able to get the shot. The main concern of the CDC at the moment is that the numbers are going down due to anti-vaxxer misinformation like that at SoundChoice.org, not even holding steady. So yes, it's imperative that every person who is able to participate does so to protect those who cannot.


 

You also make the analogy of speeding through a school zone, but that doesn't really hold water. I'm not forced to drive through a school zone, I can take an alternative road, I can drive at a different time of the day. You're advocating if you live you take this medicine, because we said so. That's a pretty authoritarian stance don't you think?

 

No one's advocating putting your kid or my kids at risk, we can have them vaccinated but if some hippie in California for whatever reason doesn't want the vaccine who are we to tell them oh well your kids getting that shot because government said so. Again I can understand the argument that maybe it's abuse or neglect not to give the kids the vaccine but the argument for the protection of society we have to make these vaccines mandatory is to much for me. Not only that but the power you're giving government over your child is bone chilling to me. I fear a government that has the final authority on my child's health care way more then some hippie in California that doesn't want the MMR shots. We make things a crime to protect the public interest. If you want to use the public school system you should vaccinate or choose an alternative school, but the public interest should come first.
I'm not advocating for the government to force you to vaccinate, I AM advocating that the government protect my children by keeping your dangerous ones out of the school system.

“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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Vacination Debate - by EricC85 - 02-06-2015, 03:19 PM
Vacination Debate - by TravC59 - 02-06-2015, 03:29 PM
Vacination Debate - by NacD - 02-06-2015, 04:28 PM
Vacination Debate - by Bon Jagley - 02-06-2015, 04:34 PM
Vacination Debate - by EricC85 - 02-06-2015, 04:35 PM
Vacination Debate - by boudreaumw - 02-06-2015, 04:50 PM
Vacination Debate - by EricC85 - 02-06-2015, 05:02 PM
Vacination Debate - by boudreaumw - 02-06-2015, 05:09 PM
Vacination Debate - by EricC85 - 02-06-2015, 05:13 PM
Vacination Debate - by boudreaumw - 02-06-2015, 05:27 PM
Vacination Debate - by EricC85 - 02-06-2015, 05:54 PM
Vacination Debate - by boudreaumw - 02-06-2015, 06:09 PM
Vacination Debate - by Bchbunnie4 - 02-06-2015, 07:26 PM
Vacination Debate - by EricC85 - 02-06-2015, 07:30 PM
Vacination Debate - by Senor Fantastico - 02-06-2015, 07:31 PM
Vacination Debate - by EricC85 - 02-06-2015, 08:05 PM
Vacination Debate - by Bchbunnie4 - 02-06-2015, 09:50 PM
Vacination Debate - by americus 2.0 - 02-06-2015, 10:52 PM
Vacination Debate - by Bchbunnie4 - 02-06-2015, 11:39 PM
Vacination Debate - by americus 2.0 - 02-07-2015, 11:40 AM
Vacination Debate - by WingerDinger - 02-07-2015, 12:34 PM
Vacination Debate - by JaG4LyFe - 02-07-2015, 01:58 PM
Vacination Debate - by jagfan0728 - 02-08-2015, 04:33 AM
Vacination Debate - by jagfan0728 - 02-08-2015, 04:59 AM
Vacination Debate - by EricC85 - 02-08-2015, 05:27 AM
Vacination Debate - by flsprtsgod - 02-08-2015, 08:44 AM
Vacination Debate - by flsprtsgod - 02-08-2015, 08:48 AM
Vacination Debate - by JaG4LyFe - 02-08-2015, 12:05 PM
Vacination Debate - by JaG4LyFe - 02-08-2015, 12:08 PM
Vacination Debate - by Jamies_fried_chicken - 02-08-2015, 01:01 PM
Vacination Debate - by EricC85 - 02-08-2015, 01:14 PM
Vacination Debate - by flsprtsgod - 02-08-2015, 03:18 PM
Vacination Debate - by UCF Knight - 02-09-2015, 12:16 PM
Vacination Debate - by boudreaumw - 02-09-2015, 01:07 PM
Vacination Debate - by flsprtsgod - 02-09-2015, 02:14 PM
Vacination Debate - by Senor Fantastico - 02-09-2015, 02:20 PM
Vacination Debate - by Bchbunnie4 - 02-09-2015, 02:21 PM
Vacination Debate - by EricC85 - 02-09-2015, 02:21 PM
Vacination Debate - by flsprtsgod - 02-09-2015, 02:24 PM
Vacination Debate - by Bchbunnie4 - 02-09-2015, 02:25 PM
Vacination Debate - by flsprtsgod - 02-09-2015, 03:01 PM
Vacination Debate - by flsprtsgod - 02-09-2015, 03:03 PM
Vacination Debate - by Bchbunnie4 - 02-09-2015, 03:08 PM
Vacination Debate - by flsprtsgod - 02-09-2015, 03:11 PM
Vacination Debate - by Bchbunnie4 - 02-09-2015, 03:15 PM
Vacination Debate - by flsprtsgod - 02-09-2015, 03:18 PM
Vacination Debate - by JaG4LyFe - 02-09-2015, 10:47 PM
Vacination Debate - by boudreaumw - 02-10-2015, 12:52 PM
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