Quote:Fair points.

 

As an opponent, I don't view Luck as the challenge that Manning was or is.  Is that fair?  Perhaps not.  But that certainly has more influence than whether or not he plays on my team.  I don't envy you having him as I did Manning, either.  Perhaps respect is a better description than envy.  I wanted us to go after Manning when you let him go, but knew he probably would have never gone for that even if we were as competitive or attractive to him as Denver at the time.  I can't say the same about Luck and Bortles.  I feel our future at the position is just as bright.

This is a good question, "is that fair?"  I would contend that it's not fair.

 

Are we comparing Super Bowl winning, multiple times MVP winner, Manning to a relatively new comer in Luck? Or  are we comparing a relatively hyped QB (Manning) coming out of  college and struggling, (3-13 in year 1, 26TDs and 28 INTs), gets his head coach fired, (Mora) Manning? Because I would contend that those are two different players. Manning in his first 3 years was an up and comer and not considered elite, yet -- much like Luck is now, despite the difference in generations and difference in the league. The point is that Manning through years 1-3 was not elite but eventually went on to be. We're not giving Luck the time to become elite, and prematurely judging him, which we are not doing with Manning now.

 

I think that Luck has shown enough in his first 3 years, to think that there is no reason to think he cannot be elite, given time, either. Heck, he already led the league in TDs, in just year 3 and was third in passing yards with a 97 QB rating. If he hasn't shown to be special yet, I would agree with you, but clearly he has shown that he is special and that he has gotten better every year.

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