Quote:  I'm positive that we have a different view in what's considered hard line pro Israel positions and hard line pro U.S, positions.    While I agree that many in Congress consider themselves strong Israel supporters,   I think what they advocate in many cases actually hurts Israel.    One major example of this is so called Foreign Aid.    Like I mentioned in another thread,  it would be in the best interest of both countries that Israel didn't receive Foreign Aid but the enemies of both Israel and the U.S.  would no longer get any foreign aid.    Even just from an economic view,   that would be a huge boost for both countries.    Unlike many on the right who considered themselves pro Israel supporters,  I want AIPAC to disappear.   This is an organization that causes more harm to Israel than the vast majority of Israel supporters realize.  

 

 Where we also probably have a different view is I don't trust Obama and the people surrounding him,  period.   It doesn't matter the issue.  

 

 

 As for the upcoming Israeli elections,   my take is all of the parties running in the election are problematic.   To differing degrees.    I'm not sure if it's better if Bibi /  Likud remains in power.   While there are parties in the election that are much further to the left than Likud,   I think their would be more opposition from a large portion of the people of Israel if they attempt to carry out what would be suicidal policies for Israel.   With Likud,  most people consider them right wing,  which actually leads to less opposition when they attempt to implement dangerous polices for Israel.    The fact that Bibi basically pushed MK member Moshe Feiglin off the Likud slate in the current election illustrates how dangerous Bibi is from my standpoint.  Feiglin is in a very small minority of current MK members ( there are 120 overall )  that I agree with AND trust on many  ( not all ) of what I consider the key issues. 

I do not understand overwhelming distrust of the president TBH. I dislike the viewpoints of many republican candidates but I do not distrust them anymore than I distrust politicians in general, which is to say I generally just distrust them lol. I think the idea the right has formed with their base is this disingenuous idea that the left are not "real Americans" or traitors or w/e... It's silly and it's against everything country was founded on to attempt to silence political thought in such a manner as matter of policy.  

 

I believe what you are saying in regards to foreign aid is that we should not give non humanitarian aid to foreign countries.  I think we do agree on foreign aid if that is the case.

 

You are very much more informed than I on the goings on in Israel. That is very obvious. I only know what the current PM says and how he speaks about things. They way he speaks and the actions he takes are all the basis I have for my opinion on the matter. In the end I don't think our perspective should matter much. I dislike us meddling in their politics almost as much as I dislike Israel interfering in out politics. 

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