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Private Probation Companies

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(This post was last modified: 03-28-2015, 12:46 AM by The Eleventh Doctor.)

Quote:After watching the clip here's my thoughts:

 

1.) He starts off with an example of Alabama where a speeding ticket is $225 and then plays on the heart strings about minimum wage that takes 35 hours to pay off. Never mentions that's the maximum fine for going 25 MPH OVER the posted limit, that's 50 MPH in a 25 MPH zone or 80 MPH in a 55 MPH zone, nope just it takes 35 hours for poor people to pay off speeding tickets in Alabama! 

 

Nope.  The speeding ticket is $225 for going UNDER 25 MPH under the speed limit.  It's $275 for going over the speed limit.  Here's the screen cap if you don't believe me:

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2.) Harriet Cleveland she says she didn't pay the fines, what does anyone expect? It wasn't even the private companies that are an issue here, she just simply didn't pay the tickets, of course they will arrest you. 

No, Private companies ARE the problem here.  Because she was handed over to JNC.  I'm not sure if you missed that part.  She couldn't afford to pay the fines.  And it's obvious they aren't supposed to arrest you for that, because a lawyer was able to argue in court that she shouldn't have been put in jail.  Did you miss that part too?  She outright said that she wanted to pay her fine, but it's gotten to the point where she can't.  What does everyone expect?  How about fairness.  Not charging poor people more money just because they can't afford a fine.  It's essentially saying "If you can pay the fine, do all the crime you like!"


 

3.) Eric Holder gives a Ferguson [BLEEP] story, but if you listen he talks about how in 2007 ( 8 YEARS ago) an unnamed women had two tickets for $152 in the last 8 years she's paid $550 and still owes $541. Now wait a minute, her fines are 8 years old at this point, If her total balance between what's been paid what is still owed is $1091 then subtract the initial fine of $152 that means the additional fines for 8 years is $939. That means she's being charged $9.71 a MONTH in interest for NOT paying her fines, that's not unreasonable. She owes that much because she didn't pay her fines. Once again the problem is individual irresponsibility.

Yes it is absolutely unreasonable.  The government should not be charging interest on fines.  You're essentially saying that it's okay to charge poor people more because they can't afford it.  This is not a loan, it's a fine.  Fines should not include interest.  NOBODY SHOULD HAVE TO PAY $1000 to pay off a $200 parking ticket.  You like to preach individual responsibility, but you also like to ignore the fact that the system hurts the poor far more than anyone else, and that it doesn't encourage responsibility for those who can afford it.  


 

4.) Hallie Woods, has a seat belt ticket for $41 we don't get much info here other than she's being managed by JNC probation, apparently she's paid multiple checks but the balance isn't going down. It's hard to tell why, is she months behind and now has fee's on top of that? Is she only making payments sporadically? I find it hard to believe she didn't have $41 to pay a fine, how was she putting gas in her car, paying for insurance, hell if you can't pay a $41 fine in a 30 day period you SHOULDN'T be driving a car. 

 

Why shouldn't you be driving a car?  I mean most people drive to work.  She's going to need a car to go look for work.  So yes, she should be driving.  Why do you find it so hard to believe she didn't have the money?  Just because you've been fortunate enough not to ever be that bad off?  She was 17 years old.  You don't know anything about her, or her situation, and I'm not sure why you're making the assumption she could have easily afforded a $41 ticket.  


 

5.) Tom Barret - the stolen beer guy, you get next to no details other than a story of how he's so broke he's had to sell his plasma the fee is $12 a day and he couldn't pay. He has the $12 fee mind you because he's already defaulted on his court ordered fine. And of COURSE his Lawyer believes his client is a victim of an unfair system, it's his lawyer!

And OF COURSE you're going to defend privatization.  I'm starting to think you'd defend it even if they put these people in slave camps.  You'd say "Personal Responsibility!"  

I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 
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