Quote:I am not the decider. Society is. Your right is a thing that causes pain in the form of discrimination to others. That should not be a right nor something people are willing to defend in a modern society. It's a very backwards view, IMO, to say it's my right to discriminate as I see fit because I do not recognize this particular class as deserving of protection in that area. 

 

The truth is people who think that way are on the wrong side of history. One by one groups that are discriminated against are protected.

 

What was it Mel Gibson said in The Patriot? Oh yeah, "Better one tyrant 3,000 miles away than 3,000 tyrants 1 mile away." Some script writer was prescient there. The notion that my rights end if they cause "pain" to others is absurd. Forcing me to have a business relationship that I find abhorrent causes me "pain", but it's ok with you when it's the gay guy exercising his so called "rights" but not ok when it's me exercising my actual rights simply because you disagree with my position. That is the subjectivity that must be eliminated lest we endanger ALL our rights. The right to private property is the most essential right of all because, as you are demonstrating in this thread, when it does not exist or exists in a weakened state then all of the other natural rights (speech, association, self determination, earning a living, etc.) are also endangered. A man has the right to do with his property as he chooses or he has a right to nothing.

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