Quote:What was it Mel Gibson said in The Patriot? Oh yeah, "Better one tyrant 3,000 miles away than 3,000 tyrants 1 mile away." Some script writer was prescient there. The notion that my rights end if they cause "pain" to others is absurd. Forcing me to have a business relationship that I find abhorrent causes me "pain", but it's ok with you when it's the gay guy exercising his so called "rights" but not ok when it's me exercising my actual rights simply because you disagree with my position. That is the subjectivity that must be eliminated lest we endanger ALL our rights. The right to private property is the most essential right of all because, as you are demonstrating in this thread, when it does not exist or exists in a weakened state then all of the other natural rights (speech, association, self determination, earning a living, etc.) are also endangered. A man has the right to do with his property as he chooses or he has a right to nothing.

This is why the right is losing this argument and has been losing it with ever anti-discrimination law that has passed. It's a poor argument. One view is purely a choice to think a thing is abhorrent. The other is very much not a choice. 

 

No being able to discriminate against women, or minorities, or sexual orientation does absolutely nothing to personal property rights what so ever. You are not arguing the right to own property or earn a living or anything. You are arguing in favor of discrimination which, if allowed as you desire, would endanger their rights. I don't think beliefs should trump rights of others. Ever. 

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