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Tevin Coleman, RB

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Quote:Then to what do you attribute schools who produce stud players at the same positions irrespective of coaching changes?

 

USC under McKay and Robinson produced stud safeties like Browner and Lott,  Even under the low point of Hackett, IIRC, USC produced guys like Tim McDonald.  Then they produced Polamalu.

 

Under several coaches spanning generations, Miami produced Chuck Foreman, Ottis Anderson, Edgerrin James, Clinton Portis and Frank Gore.  DT?  Rubin Carter(pre Schnellenberger)  to Jerome Brown (Jimmy Johnson) to Warren Sapp (Erickson) to Wilfork (Coker).

 

Alabama has produced stud LBs from Bear Bryant (EJ Junior), Ray Perkins (Cornelius Bennett) Bill Curry (Derrick Thomas), Gene Stallings (Dwayne Rudd), Mike Shula (Demeco Ryans) to Nick Saban (Donta Hightower).

 

Answer the question I posed above.

 

Why the derision over the guy from the Colorado School of mines?

 

If you find football players where you find football players, nobody should have had any problem with that signing.
 

Why the derision over the guy from Colorado School of mines? Because people are still hung up on this whole "School" thing. I think for certain positions, there's a bit of correlation because of the player base they recruit from. Guys from the old Big 10(?) Iowa/Wisconsin/Nebraska etc. had big OL/DLss because some attribute it to the kids from that region growing up with the diet that they have. Some attribute the athletes from Florida, California, Texas due to being able to play outdoors for the most part constantly due to the mild winters (compared to northern teams).

 

There's no science in drafting players. If there was, then the hit rate would be much higher, because teams would be using that science to evaluate. But it doesn't exist.

 

Now is the probability of success higher drafting from a big time school compared to a div 2 school? I think that I'd agree on. But to be exact on position? I don't agree, because there simply are too many factors.

 

Sure, you can pick out the successes. But how do they compare to the failures?

 

Since James, Portis, and Gore...who has Miami produced at RB?

 

Mike James? Lamar Miller? Eh they are OK, with Miller looking like a mighty bust up until a small stretch last season.

 

Gore was drafted in 2005. That's nine years of no "stud" running backs from a so-called "RB Univ".

 

Basing it on recent trends (like the Alabama/Saban example)? OK, I can buy that. But to base decisions on decades and decades of history when not only coaches, schemes, but the game of college football and the NFL as a whole has change, to me, is a logical fallacy in evaluating a prospect.

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Tevin Coleman, RB - by knarnn - 04-13-2015, 06:34 PM
Tevin Coleman, RB - by Kyle Eckstein - 04-13-2015, 06:49 PM
Tevin Coleman, RB - by Stigma - 04-13-2015, 06:51 PM
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Tevin Coleman, RB - by knarnn - 04-13-2015, 06:57 PM
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