Quote:Actually we can get past it by having a President and congress who support making decisions that counter climate change.  If you don't want to be part of the process, then that's up to you.


That's how we ended up with Obamacare.  Opponents just kept saying "No" and not coming up with their own plan.

 

This country has done more than any other on the planet to counter this concocted man made global warming story.  Whether you're talking about cutting emissions for vehicles or power plants, we have done more to cut our carbon footprint than any other nation.  It's not up to the United States to save the stinking planet.  China, Russia, India, and other industrialized nations around the globe spew pollutants into the atmosphere an an exponentially higher rate than we do, yet somehow we're to blame for this alarmist theory of global warming.  Or wait.  Is it an ice age?  The same alarmists telling us the planet is going to melt into a giant ball of water if WE don't do something now were declaring a coming ice age that was going to cover the planet in a sheet of ice just a few decades ago. It's amazing how that settled science seems to swing from one extreme to another from generation to generation, isn't it?

 

We ended up with ObamaCare because anyone opposed to it was going to be summarily ignored, kind of like the skeptics of global warming.  It doesn't matter if they stand up or not.  The agenda driven folks on the left aren't going to concede an inch from what they want. 

 

Quote:I just love the statements of people like FBT that we just need to do the research - i.e., keep at it until a report agrees with my preconceived opinions.

 

I don't see anyone on here ever agreeing that yep, that's it, I'm convinced. This has become a religious debate with everyone's favorite sites available at a moments notice.

 

I just love the way people like you dismiss the notion that the science is doctored, and that a more comprehensive round of research SHOULD be done to settle the science.  There was once a day when scientists invited scrutiny to assure they were on the right path.  But, with the money behind global warming, nobody dares to challenge the theory lest they want to see their funding go away. 

 

I don't care if it jives with my opinion.  I just want the scientists to come to a consensus that doesn't have one side declaring that it's a done deal, the science is settled while the other side points out every flaw and lie that is perpetuated by the agenda whores who are convinced climate change is man made.  When they're exposed for doctoring science, or dismissing metrics that don't support their viewpoint, it's okay to you because they're supporting your opinion.  Any scientist who doesn't must be dismissed, right?

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