Quote:I didnt see that at all from Beasely. I saw a guy who, to his credit, would scare guys up field with speed then later on use their overset and win with an up under or like you pointed out get them off balance and bull rush them back. IMO it wasn't pop, they're completely off balanced trying to kick slide out to him. All if that is great and a credit to Beasley's get off, not taking anything away from him. My concern is that many of the OT's in the NFL are a lot better athletes and are much more able to handle speed rushes. Can Beasley win after a OT slides out to cover him up like many in college couldn't?


Fowler doesn't have that speed and uses his hands better IMO. Does he need improvement, of course. But from what I've seen when he hits an OT with those heavy hands they can feel it.


I'm not trying to pimp Fowler over Beasley or anything like that. That's just what I've seen. We can disagree but you have valid concerns as do I. Fowler is still young and can definitely continue to add strength.

 

That's mostly what I saw.  Beasley sets them up with speed and would occasionally finish with power.  I wasn't trying to state he would win with a straight bull rush off the snap against an NFL tackle.

 

I guess what I'm mostly trying to say is that I have doubts about Fowler being able to win out of a 3 point stance.  He needs to get stronger in order to win those battles, because he doesn't have the elite first step, quick twitch acceleration, or repertoire of pass rush moves to win in other ways.  Not saying he's bad in any of those categories, he's certainly good (worthy of a 1st round pick good), but none are good enough to scare an NFL tackle.  You can see where the strength issues come into play when he doesn't win off the snap - and he's not elite off the snap in the first place (from a 3 point stance).  Not that its a big deal from the LEO position, but in the power run game he isn't strong enough to hold his ground.

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