Quote:I knew Chicago was going to show up somewhere in this thread. The reason gun control doesn't work in Chicago is because there is very little gun control in the surrounding areas. Gun control doesn't help if you can drive 30 minutes and still get a perfectly legal gun. It's kind of like attempting to reduce the smell in a public toilet by saying people can no longer poop in the middle stall, the stench is going to come in from the other stalls.

 

A better comparison would be the US vs Europe, and the US ranks worse in almost every major crime statistic, especially gun violence.

Your argument about Chicago is so void of substance, it's rediculous.

 

Criminals don't give a rat's rear about getting a perfectly legal gun. They never have and they never will. Now, where your argument falls completely and utterly flat on it's face was what you said in your own words. Yes, people can drive 30 minutes from Chicago (not in traffic, btw...) and get a gun legally. This begs the question: why do the criminals go back to Chicago after getting their guns? Why not run wild on the area that they're already in? I'll tell you why? The criminal prefers to not be confronted by a legitimate threat to their objective. That's why violence is worse in cities like Chicago and Washington DC. Criminals know that the odds of running into resistance are a lot less. Criminals are lazy, which is a huge reason why they're criminals to begin with. Working for a living and doing things the right way is just too much for them. They need motivation to go back into a gun restricted area to commit crimes, rather than committing those crimes in a gun friendly zone. The payoff is that they will meet less resistance. They can perform their crimes and not have to worry as much about their own well being.

 

I have lived in both Chicago and Washington DC. I know firsthand what restrictive gun laws do. You have zero firsthand experience in either city, so you are going off something other than experience. Whatever that may be is flat out wrong. Regional studies have proven that areas with restrictive gun laws have much worse violent crime than areas with gun friendly laws.

 

Also, care to explain why so many of the Swiss carry guns if it's the pristine utopia that you claim it to be? I agree that it has social structures that other places do not, btw, but I completely disagree as to why those people carry guns. I know a Swiss family and speak to them once or twice a month. I know that they say that they carry guns because while crime is low where they live, it is still present. They don't want to be the rare victim, and intend not to be.

 

Your argument is flawed on multiple levels, and frankly you're not in a position to speak intelligently about it. Not because you are you, but because where you live and your environment. You simply don't have enough life experience dealing with this kind of thing to speak reasonably about it.

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