Quote:I've never heard a conservative use the term 'socialist' solely as a factual term, and not as an intended insult.


And liberals aren't really socialist, they're just more socialist than conservatives.  They want more equality, not complete equality. We want the income equality to be more managable, and thus have a healthier middle class.  I'd hope we can both agree that the middle class is disappearing.  

As for the definition of marriage.. that's not really a good reason to deny gays the right to get married.
 I attended my best friend's lesbian wedding two weeks ago.  She and her now wife had been dating for 12 years (and were engaged, even though they couldn't get married they were considering moving to somewhere where they could, for about 4 years).  Marriage has changed a lot over the years.  Women used to be considered property. And girls used to get married very young.  To see one of my closest friends finally be able to marry the love of her life was nice, and denying people that based on the fact that other people disagree with it because of <i>their</i> religion just does not sit right with me.   It's like saying "If we give women the vote, who's going to want to vote next?  Dogs?"  I'm just glad they were able to get married without moving.  Because she's practically family, and my daughters consider her an Aunt.  She doesn't want to marry multiple people, so I don't see why she shouldn't be given the right to marry the one person she loves just because others might want to.



I doubt I could find any links that would satisfy you.


Sure, Liberal media insults people too.  I never suggested otherwise.  That's why I don't watch the liberal news channels.  They're not really 'news' either.  I wouldn't watch Rachel Maddow anymore than I would Bill O'Reilly.

 

I have been pondering this issue of Gay Marriage for some time and have come to this conclusion:

 

What does being married have to do government benefits?

 

Let's be honest.  Marriage is a biblical union between a man and woman in the eyes of God.  Let us not debate the issue of if there is a God and how he would judge us, but acknowledge that as far as I can see this is the basis of marriage.  What pray tell does this have to do with healthcare, insurance and tax returns?

 

Why can't we have marriage a faith based institution for those that believe and a civil union for those seeking government benefits?  If two God fearing individuals wish to get married then let the church marry them.  If they wish to have tax breaks and healthcare benefits then let them seek a government sanctioned civil union?  Why do these two issues have to be tied together?  This will allow the government sanctioned benefits be available to all parties and the Christians ideal of marriage to be totally separate.

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