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Common Core

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Quote:In the first case, let's look at it this way. Is it ever appropriate to compare any U.S. President with Adolph Hitler? The answer is no, no matter if the President is left wing or right wing. However, comparing President Bush to Adolph Hitler was very much common among the far left. The fact that this goes all the way to a public school classroom should outrage most people, however you seem to be alright with it.


Put it this way, what if the same comparison is made between President Obama and Adolph Hitler? After all, they both "abused their powers". What if President Obama was compared to the likes of Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong or Kim Jong Il? After all, they all have communist leanings. Would it be appropriate in a 6th grade classroom?


By the way, yes I did support President Bush though I wasn't happy with some of his policies during his second term. Liberals are always quick to point out how government grew under his "regime" as they like to put it. (Incidentally, using the term "regime" when referring to President Obama's administration tends to irk liberals). However, the growth of government and bureaucracy under President Obama's regime is largely ignored. Why is that? I would venture to say that it's because of "Barrak Hussien Obama, mmm, mmm, mmm"!


As far as the second link that I provided, it pretty much came up on a simple google search. Many of the links on that page point to news stories that support the claims. For example, who did the most to end The Cold War? What is behind the textbook debate/situation in Texas? What about religion in schools?


Take a look at how children are taught and brought up today. Everyone gets a "medal" or a "prize" just for "participating". They are not taught that there are winners and losers. There is no playing "cowboys and indians" or no playing with plastic army soldiers. Heck, students even <a class="bbc_url" href='http://archive.militarytimes.com/article/20100617/NEWS/6170312/Student-sent-home-wearing-soldier-clad-hat'>get sent home for wearing clothing honoring the military</a> or <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.ijreview.com/2015/03/283554-high-court-decide-whether-kids-can-wear-american-flag-shirts-school-one-particular-day/'>wearing clothing that includes the U.S. Flag</a>. What about a student getting sent home for <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/student-suspended-for-pop-tart-gun_n_2903500.html'>eating a pop tart</a> in the shape of a gun? (That last link comes from what I suspect is one of your favorite websites, the huffington and puffington post). What about a student sent home for wearing a shirt showing <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.huffingtonpost.com/student-press-law-center/first-amendment-lawsuit-student-was-punished-for-wearing-a-t-shirt-advocating-gun-rights_b_7295046.html'>his support for the NRA</a>? <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_3560566'>Here</a> is another example of a school indoctrinating students.


I could go on and on with examples of how children are "indoctrinated" in today's public schools. To say that it's "insulting" and not happening is completely false. The only thing that is "insulting" is the fact that those on the far left refuse to acknowledge that it is in fact happening, and they encourage it.


I'm not saying that your wife does it, but to say that indoctrination in public schools is not happening is completely false.


In fairness, these examples are not because of Common Core (which again, I'm not a fan of) and some of the examples are almost a decade old. When I graduated high school 20 odd years ago I had a government teacher complain daily about Clinton. I had an American History teacher tell us that Reagan was the greatest president that ever lived and made us do a research project on him. I recently worked with an uber conservative that claimed that plastic was natural (because all of the ingredients to make it at from Earth...I know, I know) and therefore not bad for the environment. My point is that you can find examples of teachers embedding their personal opinion everywhere, but it isn't necessarily indoctrination (though I think we would all agree it's inappropriate.) From the examples you provided, it would seem as though my experiences in high school were indoctrination too, though I would not label it that.


My department at work is a healthy balance of liberals conservatives and moderates. So was the other school I worked at. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but a few examples of teachers acting like idiots doesn't really prove much of anything.
“It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners.”
― Albert Camus
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