this is where we disagree jagbelieve i don't view atrocities regardless how horrible they may be as a reason alone for use to get involved in foreign conflicts.


Maybe we didn't declare war in Iraq but when you send in that amount of troops spend that kind of money and then occupy them for a decade you went to war even if we didn't call it a war.


Unless you advocate us permanently staying in the Middle East Iraq should perfectly illustrate the point of non-intervention. We came we conquered we established a democracy we built infrastructure we trained an army we armed an army what happend to all of that when we left? Would it have mattered if Obama left some guys behind sure it would prolonged the inevitable a decade but when we left in a decade id wager it would all end up the same.


Now we're going to end up back in the Middle East because we armed another group of rebels to take on Assad who is on our bad guy list only those rebels ended up being worse. Damn it how about we just stay out of it? Saves us money. And lives.

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