Create Account



The Jungle is self-supported by showing advertisements via Google Adsense.
Please consider disabling your advertisement-blocking plugin on the Jungle to help support the site and let us grow!
We also show significantly less advertisements to registered users, so create your account to benefit from this!
Questions or concerns about this ad? Take a screenshot and comment in the thread. We do value your feedback.
Philosophy Discussions

#3

Quote:Obviously philosophy is broad enough to have its own forum but since that hasn't happened yet let's just start a thread. Let's also steer away from any religious discussions.


Here's a question to start this thread off:


Is it better to live as a coward or die a hero?


Say you're faced with an option of taking a fatal gunshot wound for a close family member or friend. Would it be truly worth it to die? Sure, you’d be a hero, but that person would feel guilty for your death for the rest of their lives. Is that “brave” act actually cowardly because you’re transferring the guilt that you’d have felt if you did nothing and watched them die to your friend, who has to deal with the guilt of causing your death?
 

It's difficult to discuss this without bringing religion into the mix.

 

Would it be "worth" it?  That depends on the values and beliefs of a person.  For me personally, if it came down to a family member then I would certainly put myself in harm's way to protect them.

 

Next you already make the assumption that taking a bullet for a close friend or family member would make you a "hero".  Then you make the assumption that the family member or friend would feel "guilty" for the rest of their life.  What if the assumption was changed to "thankful"?  What if the person that is saved in your scenario had a feeling of gratefulness rather than guilt?

 

What you imply though, is that you're "transferring" an emotion (guilt) because of your actions.  Is/was that the intention for said action?  Or could said action have been done because of another emotion (love)?  Is said action deserving of one label (hero) or another label (cowardly)?  It depends on the original intent and the belief of the people involved.

 

You need to be careful when making assumptions.



There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.
Reply


Messages In This Thread
Philosophy Discussions - by knarnn - 06-18-2015, 12:37 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by Deacon - 06-18-2015, 11:07 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by jagibelieve - 06-18-2015, 05:00 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by Achilles - 06-18-2015, 05:23 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by americus 2.0 - 06-18-2015, 07:15 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by EricC85 - 06-18-2015, 09:52 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by knarnn - 06-18-2015, 10:52 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by EricC85 - 06-19-2015, 08:01 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by jagibelieve - 06-19-2015, 06:25 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by knarnn - 06-19-2015, 06:34 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by jagibelieve - 06-19-2015, 07:07 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by knarnn - 06-19-2015, 09:41 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by MarleyJag - 06-19-2015, 09:42 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by VisitingCobra - 06-19-2015, 11:08 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by ibjagged - 06-20-2015, 12:18 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by Flagler Jagsfan - 06-20-2015, 02:52 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by DewtheMathis - 06-23-2015, 03:03 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by The Real Marty - 06-26-2015, 08:54 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by BigJag57 - 06-27-2015, 09:46 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by JagsorDie - 06-29-2015, 10:28 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by hailtoyourvictor - 06-30-2015, 02:16 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 06-30-2015, 07:51 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by Guest - 06-30-2015, 05:56 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by jagibelieve - 06-30-2015, 06:21 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by jagibelieve - 06-30-2015, 06:22 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 06-30-2015, 08:38 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by Ringo - 06-30-2015, 09:57 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by Ringo - 06-30-2015, 10:00 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 06-30-2015, 10:47 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by MarleyJag - 07-01-2015, 05:53 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-01-2015, 07:22 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by The Real Marty - 07-03-2015, 07:42 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by rollerjag - 07-03-2015, 05:06 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by Adam2012 - 07-03-2015, 11:24 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by EricC85 - 07-03-2015, 11:35 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by VisitingCobra - 07-04-2015, 01:01 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by Senor Fantastico - 07-04-2015, 06:01 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by Caldrac - 07-04-2015, 07:53 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by VisitingCobra - 07-04-2015, 08:10 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by Caldrac - 07-04-2015, 08:13 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by Caldrac - 07-04-2015, 08:30 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by Caldrac - 07-04-2015, 08:37 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by The Real Marty - 07-04-2015, 09:00 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-04-2015, 09:12 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by Bon Jagley - 07-04-2015, 09:13 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by Caldrac - 07-04-2015, 09:17 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by EricC85 - 07-05-2015, 08:47 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-05-2015, 10:08 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-05-2015, 11:47 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by hailtoyourvictor - 07-05-2015, 12:00 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by VisitingCobra - 07-05-2015, 03:09 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-05-2015, 04:31 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by VisitingCobra - 07-05-2015, 08:18 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-05-2015, 09:02 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by Jamies_fried_chicken - 07-05-2015, 09:02 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by hailtoyourvictor - 07-05-2015, 09:35 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by VisitingCobra - 07-05-2015, 09:41 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by VisitingCobra - 07-05-2015, 10:19 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by EricC85 - 07-05-2015, 10:28 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by EricC85 - 07-05-2015, 10:34 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-05-2015, 11:14 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by hailtoyourvictor - 07-06-2015, 12:38 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-06-2015, 03:11 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by EricC85 - 07-06-2015, 07:12 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by EricC85 - 07-06-2015, 07:18 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-06-2015, 09:19 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by VisitingCobra - 07-06-2015, 09:44 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by EricC85 - 07-06-2015, 01:32 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-06-2015, 02:31 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by VisitingCobra - 07-06-2015, 03:09 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-06-2015, 03:16 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by RicoTx - 07-06-2015, 03:26 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by VisitingCobra - 07-06-2015, 04:36 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-06-2015, 04:45 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by VisitingCobra - 07-06-2015, 05:12 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-06-2015, 05:31 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by hailtoyourvictor - 07-07-2015, 06:10 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by EricC85 - 07-07-2015, 10:14 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by hailtoyourvictor - 07-08-2015, 11:43 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by Shack Del Rio - 07-08-2015, 12:29 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by EricC85 - 07-08-2015, 09:47 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by hailtoyourvictor - 07-09-2015, 12:00 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by hailtoyourvictor - 07-09-2015, 12:02 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by EricC85 - 07-09-2015, 07:41 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by StromStorm - 07-09-2015, 07:50 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by hailtoyourvictor - 07-09-2015, 11:28 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-09-2015, 05:17 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by The Real Marty - 07-11-2015, 10:30 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-11-2015, 11:41 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by EricC85 - 07-11-2015, 02:27 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by EricC85 - 07-11-2015, 02:30 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-11-2015, 03:20 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by jagibelieve - 07-11-2015, 03:59 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by Senor Fantastico - 07-11-2015, 05:08 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by EricC85 - 07-11-2015, 08:35 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by EricC85 - 07-11-2015, 08:36 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by rollerjag - 07-12-2015, 12:01 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by The Real Marty - 07-12-2015, 06:09 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by The Real Marty - 07-12-2015, 06:13 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by EricC85 - 07-12-2015, 10:35 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-12-2015, 11:07 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by Senor Fantastico - 07-12-2015, 11:16 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by jagibelieve - 07-12-2015, 11:27 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by The Real Marty - 07-12-2015, 12:06 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by EricC85 - 07-12-2015, 01:07 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by americus 2.0 - 07-12-2015, 04:04 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by americus 2.0 - 07-12-2015, 04:14 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-12-2015, 04:15 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by EricC85 - 07-12-2015, 08:57 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-12-2015, 09:39 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by EricC85 - 07-12-2015, 10:10 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by The Real Marty - 07-13-2015, 06:36 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by The Real Marty - 07-13-2015, 06:42 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by EricC85 - 07-13-2015, 07:13 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by Guest - 07-17-2015, 02:17 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by TJBender - 07-17-2015, 02:35 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-17-2015, 03:18 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-17-2015, 05:13 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-17-2015, 05:16 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-17-2015, 05:19 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-17-2015, 08:55 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by Sneakers - 07-17-2015, 09:37 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by Guest - 07-17-2015, 09:39 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-18-2015, 06:03 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-18-2015, 06:10 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-18-2015, 07:11 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-18-2015, 10:21 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-18-2015, 10:43 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-18-2015, 11:03 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by Sneakers - 07-19-2015, 01:46 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-19-2015, 07:10 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-19-2015, 08:04 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-19-2015, 11:33 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-19-2015, 11:44 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-19-2015, 12:12 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by NYC4jags - 07-19-2015, 03:08 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-19-2015, 05:48 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-19-2015, 08:07 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-19-2015, 08:13 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-19-2015, 09:15 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-19-2015, 09:18 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-19-2015, 09:22 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by The Real Marty - 07-21-2015, 06:59 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-24-2015, 07:27 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-24-2015, 07:34 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-24-2015, 07:41 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by The Real Marty - 07-24-2015, 08:59 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-24-2015, 12:20 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by Adam2012 - 07-24-2015, 12:25 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-24-2015, 02:20 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-24-2015, 02:24 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-24-2015, 05:16 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-24-2015, 06:43 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by Adam2012 - 07-24-2015, 08:08 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-24-2015, 09:34 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-25-2015, 08:31 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-25-2015, 09:45 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-25-2015, 10:17 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by Guest - 07-25-2015, 04:06 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by Caldrac - 07-25-2015, 04:44 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-25-2015, 07:06 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by The Real Marty - 07-26-2015, 09:31 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-26-2015, 10:15 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by wrong_box - 07-26-2015, 10:49 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by jtmoney - 07-26-2015, 09:50 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by WingerDinger - 07-26-2015, 09:53 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by jtmoney - 07-26-2015, 10:15 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by jtmoney - 07-26-2015, 10:18 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by RicoTx - 07-27-2015, 08:28 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-27-2015, 08:32 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by Sneakers - 07-28-2015, 09:46 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-28-2015, 10:45 PM
Philosophy Discussions - by VisitingCobra - 07-29-2015, 01:34 AM
Philosophy Discussions - by flsprtsgod - 07-30-2015, 02:44 PM



Users browsing this thread:

The Jungle is self-supported by showing advertisements via Google Adsense.
Please consider disabling your advertisement-blocking plugin on the Jungle to help support the site and let us grow!
We also show less advertisements to registered users, so create your account to benefit from this!
Questions or concerns about this ad? Take a screenshot and comment in the thread. We do value your feedback.


ABOUT US
The Jungle Forums is the Jaguars' biggest fan message board. Talking about the Jags since 2006, the Jungle was the team-endorsed home of all things Jaguars.

Since 2017, the Jungle is now independent of the team but still run by the same crew. We are here to support and discuss all things Jaguars and all things Duval!