Quote:Ringo, is it that we Americans are soft and lazy? Or is it that the wage being offered is too low for the work?

Bingo that's the reality the whole Americans won't do the work is a weak argument. Americans have and to this day do all kinds of horrible labor but it's when the pay equals the work.


Rj talks about the farmer who pays $10 an hour to bundle hay well that's fine teenagers might be interested in a wage that low but if you asked me as a grown adult id decline as well I can make $10 an hour doing way less physical work. It's cheaper for that farmer to purchase equipment that bundles the hay then to pay what someone going to want for that type of temporary physical labor.


I've dug ditches, laid sod, changed tires, and done countless other labor jobs for low wages to get where I'm at I don't believe the nonsense Americans won't do those jobs I've seen it with my own eyes. I've sat in labor hall lines at 3am with 100 other laborers (legal Americans you had to have papers) to hope for a day job making $8 an hour we where doing the same work you'd see people pick up illegals for.

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