Quote:Why is that you liberals cannot even acknowledge that abuses occur?  

 

Since you ask though, it is approximately 4am.  At that time there is only 1 cash register open.  (though lately they have finally opened up the self checkout lines) When I would get caught behind this family what I have observed is 1st one pays with their card, then the other pays with their card.  As I am purchasing a pre-made salad since I was too lazy to make my lunch the night before, I easily catch up with this pair.  

 

Does that answer your questions?  Now again I ask why is it taboo for you that we cannot even discuss holes in the system?

 

Abuses do occur.  We live in a society full of humans.  The point I'm making, and I think the rest of us are trying to make is that poor people are not all criminals and cheats.  As a matter of fact, the vast majority of them are law abiding citizens that for whatever reason are in need of help.  

 

If you don't want to help the working poor and the flat out poor because you hate the government (or think it bad, or whatever) then just say that.  But don't try and rationalize it by saying "all these poor people are a bunch of cheating thieves stealing our tax dollars, so let's stop funding social programs." 

 

Just be honest.  

 

Look, I get it.  We all bust our butts to support our families.  And I'm with you, people that slide by and cheat the system make be pretty mad as well.  I'm not trying to take that away from you.  I'm all about my class.  I'm a working chump, just like the rest of us on this website.  But I'm not gonna sit here and take an approach that isn't based on reality, especially when it comes from politicians that seem to bend us all over for the past 30 years.  

 

I've done the research, I've thought it through, and it makes sense that poor people, are a sub-set of the overall population.  They are not any more or any less likely to be law breakers and cheaters.  And they do it at about a 5% clip...  Let's say that some of them are even so good at abusing the system that they don't get caught.  Let's say it's as high as 20% (which it isn't, but just for the sake of the argument), that would mean 80% of the poor are doing it the correct way and really do need our help.

 

So do we just cut off all help for the 80%, just because some jerks--an overwhelming minority of them--- are abusing the system?  Maybe you think that we should.  But just admit that it's because you don't want them to get help.  Not because a few are abusing the system. 

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