Quote:you must not be considering the thousands of owner operater farmers who work their own land until harvest time and then bring in temp labor...You have never obviously had to hire temp labor...Illegals routinley work for less than minimum wage for cash under the table, and they work from sun up to sun down...They end up with a good chnk of change per day and they work the harvests and go back home and live like kings in Mexico for the winter...The problem is so bad in Idaho, they have set up labor camps so undocumented farm workers have housing during the growing and harvesting months, and then they shut them down for the winter

No actually, I think I am considering the thousands of owner operator farmers who work their own land being that not only am I one, and also surrounded by the same thing (by literally thousands btw) because I live and operate a farming business in the farming capitol of the world. Can you say the same?


It's really kind of laughable that you think your 2nd or 3rd hand knowledge trumps my lifetime of first hand knowledge in a community more farming-centric than you've probably ever been exposed to in your life. Farming is a $42 billion dollar industry in Ca, and I live in the #1 county within the state in terms of agribusiness. The two largest crops are vineyard and almonds, both of which I grow.


I have active contracts with Sun-Maid Rasins <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.sunmaid.com'>http://www.sunmaid.com</a> as well as The Almond Company <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.thealmondcompany.com.'>http://www.thealmondcompany.com.</a> I deal with the National Resources Conservation Service <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.nrcs.usda.gov/wps/portal/nrcs/site/national/home/'>http://www.nrcs.usda.gov/wps/portal/nrcs/site/national/home/</a> and I'm a committee member of CARCD <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.carcd.org/home0.aspx'>http://www.carcd.org/home0.aspx</a>


I'm also a member of Allied Grape Growers <a class="bbc_url" href='http://alliedgrapegrowers.org'>http://alliedgrapegrowers.org</a> and the San Joaquin Winegrowers Association <a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.idrinkwine.net.'>http://www.idrinkwine.net.</a>


At some point I think you need to stop and realize that I might know a little more about how the industry works than you do.

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