Quote:No police interrogations there is the presumption of innocence until proven guilty. Once they are found guilty they are still afforded constitutional rights, the way citizens (good or bad) are treated is vastly different then enemy combatants. That's just basic understanding of how the world works?

 

Your scenario of what I'd allow someone to do to me to save some made up life is irrelevant, the discussion is what is torture, and what is tolerable. I draw the line at purposefully causing pain to gain information under distress. Making it uncomfortable or simulating fear is not torture.